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Okay come on, please post your 5 differences between BF2 and BF3 as you see it. Me personally, I hated BF2 because I had no-one to play with. I joined TFU when BC2 came out and raped it. So I decline to comment

I love BF3 though!

So, please post your top 5 differences below

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Anything I post will be as I see it, it's my opinion ;) I thought MP in BC, BC2, CoD MW, MW2 etc was absolutley hideous, it stopped me playing online gaming. I've only recently started again with the release of BF3 hoping it would bring back the good old days. It's good but it's not the same. I don't know if I can point out 5 big differences, but I'll give it a go:

  1. No ingame VOIP. I don't game enough to belong to any gaming communities, so i'm a typical casual player. Ingame VOIP is a massive ommision.
  2. The pace of the game is faster in BF3. 64 player servers are fun but it's constantly in your face, tactics tend to take a back seat as you play what's in front of you. 32 players are better but is loses the "epic" feel.
  3. No commander role. Love it or hate it, a good commander added so much to the game.
  4. The whole stats, rewards for playing etc. In BF3 you do get players more concerned with levelling up etc. than contributing to the team win. This should in theory be a means to the same end, but somehow it also manages not to be.
  5. Cheats. It may be rose tinted glasses but don't recall cheats being a huge issue in BF2. I left 2 servers tonight mid round due to someone joining and then killing everyone as they spawned. I'll be honest that i;ve not had major issues with this before now, but I was struggling with #5! :D

Don't get me wrong, i think BF3 is a cracking game. I wish I could find a decent server and get involved with voice comms, I'm sure it would improve things a lot. It probably also doesn't help that I haven't gamed in over 3 years and I'm crap now either. I was really looking forward to the B2K maps in a nostalgic way, but they haven't delivered in that way at all. They are a welcome addition to BF3 though (I should add that I haven't played Wake island yet, but I always thought that was a crap map anyway!).
 
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I just find them to be a snipe fest myself, My mate doesn't have them so I've only clocked up 30 odd minutes on them in total though.

I've been trying the sniper rifle ... sv98 ... how much do you have to miss by? ... if there's any decent range involved the bullet drop is massive. Seems to go miss....miss....miss....miss....miss....miss....headshot .....

Does the snipe rifle mostly do headshot if you get a hit at range? Not grumbling at the 10 extra points but quite rare to get anything other than a miss or headshot once the range steps up a little. Took 3 people off a crane earlier .... had to go and find ammo it took so many shots but at least you can see where your bullet went. Still seems like you need to miss by a mile ... I'm sure I'll get an eye in eventually.

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Well what a massive disappointment the B2K maps are, in this I mean it really highlights how different BF3 is to BF2. They make look similar but they play nothing like they did in BF2, the faster pace of BF3 just takes the edge off. It's a shame but I should have expected as much. They are decent maps in their own right and will sit well in BF3, but they have left me cold to be honest.

i agree i have over 2000 hrs on my bf2 account and bf3 plays nothing like it,without the b2k maps bf3 is a failure,i got myself a refund,ill wait for bf4,hopefully they may get that right.
 
how can it play nothing like it ?

You run round capturing flags and shooting people ? whilst other people drive round in tanks etc..

Its exactly like BF2. And all of the complaints i've seen so far fail to explain why its "nothing like bf" beyond an observation that some seem more obsessed with the stats than playing the game. but the remedy to that is to ... just find a better group of regulars to play with ?
 
Bf3 is like bf2. It came out with bugs, still has them and will do till bf4. Its got conquest, jets and tanks. It even has karkand and wake, can't get more bf than that:)
For the record bc2 doesn't count as a bf game, yes i said it;):o
 
For Crossfire users:

1. Download and install the 12.1a preview drivers
2. Use a "user.cfg" file within your BF3 main folder (the one with the bf3.exe) and type the following in

renderdevice.forcerenderaheadlimit 1

3. Use MSI AB to limit to 55 or 62

and enjoy smoother gameplay!

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Thanks mate ill give this a proper butchers shortly.

One question though for you, or anyone else. I think i used the fps limiter in battlefield 3 a week or two back, how do i disable or cancel that? I don't want that messing with afterburburner.

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Strange i just had a look through my afterburner (i think its the beta from novemberish) and i couldnt see the screen neil mentioned here in the bottom of his op.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18316862
 
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You probably added it with Nivida inspector. Just open it up, go to settings and scroll down and you should see the fps limit option. Set that to off and Apply.

I had the same issue with AfterBurner, turns out where are looking in the wrong place. Open up Afterburner, go to Settings -> On Screen Display and then Click 'More' at the bottom. This should open up a Riva Tuner screen. On there, click on the spanner looking icon in the top Right (Settings) and you should see it under there.
 
You probably added it with Nivida inspector. Just open it up, go to settings and scroll down and you should see the fps limit option. Set that to off and Apply.

I had the same issue with AfterBurner, turns out where are looking in the wrong place. Open up Afterburner, go to Settings -> On Screen Display and then Click 'More' at the bottom. This should open up a Riva Tuner screen. On there, click on the spanner looking icon in the top Right (Settings) and you should see it under there.

Huh? I have crossfire. Whats Nvidia inspector. Sounds like a poor mans taggart to me.
 
For me getting rid of the commander was a complete positive, total waste of a slot on the server imho (ts only valid use was in scrims ). In the years I played BF2 I probably saw only a handfull of usefull commanders, the rest either trolled voip, flew round in jets or spent the round trying to drop crates / jeeps on snipers heads. It's a million times better without them in my experience. It was single handedly the thing we kicked people most for (we had 1x16, 1x32 and 2x64 servers at the time).

The other thing we've found, and can't explain is that on our server, people just don't like the B2K maps at all, as soon as one comes on 70% of the server leaves. Weve removed them for the time being and gone back to a vanilla rotation. Really odd.

For me BF3 gameplay far exceeds that of BF2, the only thing that stops it being the best BF / FPS ever released is the lack of competition support and mod tools.
 
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For me BF3 gameplay far exceeds that of BF2, the only thing that stops it being the best BF / FPS ever released is the lack of competition support and mod tools.

The other major annoynce is the clientside hit detection, which has led to some being able to hack the server and spawn kill everybody at will and empty a server in minutes. Plus the other downsides of being shot round corners etc..

The other stuff like no in game VOIP etc.. doesnt really detract much, because most will use mumble or teamspeak anyway. And nobody ever actually properly used the mini map / orders system in public games anyway.
 
Hows people getting on with the assignments? i've not used the support kit much at all since getting the game so having to use it now to unlock the mortar.
 
Thanks mate ill give this a proper butchers shortly.

One question though for you, or anyone else. I think i used the fps limiter in battlefield 3 a week or two back, how do i disable or cancel that? I don't want that messing with afterburburner.

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Strange i just had a look through my afterburner (i think its the beta from novemberish) and i couldnt see the screen neil mentioned here in the bottom of his op.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18316862

If you don't use the user.cfg, I think the commands reset itself mate. If not, type

gametime.maxvaribalefps 0

in the cfg file also

Update the MSI AB to beta 10 to get the limiter. Right click the little plane in the right take bar area and click show. Then click the spanner :)
 
The other major annoynce is the clientside hit detection, which has led to some being able to hack the server and spawn kill everybody at will and empty a server in minutes. Plus the other downsides of being shot round corners etc..

Had this last night, two guys joined on our team getting > 40/0 K/D ratio then did something and everyone died even though we were on the same team. Cam cut to him in the RU spawn base. Then the started spamming the name of some cheat software and generally being a troll.

Most blatant cheat I've seen as yet.

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Hows people getting on with the assignments? i've not used the support kit much at all since getting the game so having to use it now to unlock the mortar.

All done without too much trouble

The repair tool kill and vehicle destory i found pretty easy ! The only ones i found annoying were the BTR kills (trying to find a map with it on and then trying to get in the thing) and the squad deathmatch wins.
 
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