Fine, I bet you didn't tell the police that when going for your license though.
Your views on gun laws in the UK
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Fine, I bet you didn't tell the police that when going for your license though.
Soldato
I agree with this. I can see no good coming from people carrying weapons in the streets, even having guns in their homes isn't great as they are likely to be more tempted to use it in the event of people entering their homes, which will not only lead to more people getting hurt (whether that is the burglar or the homeowner) but also more people being prosecuted for falling foul of self-defence laws.
Good point. America is a very legalistic country. They try and balance out freedom with crime. And they have a very particular model to do so, i.e their constitution, it's quite different to ours, but yet they have some of the best minds in the world, they have a freedom that we just don't have over here and the right to bare arms(in certain states) is one of them, but with that freedom comes more crime, that goes without saying, but i just like the idea of having that level of personal freedom. Maybe we are more morally superior, i usually think we are. I think we are more socialistically caring anyway. Just an idea and comparison. I think what annoys most me is when people become so paranoid and distrustful i feel we have become that way to some extent.
Carrying a weapon outside of the home seems overkill because we have the police to maintain order.
Having a weapon inside of the home is impractical because it would mean carrying it around with me all the time, on the off chance that someone wants to break in while I'm in the house.
Likewise if I'm asleep and a noise wakes me, I'd still have to get to a gunsafe and get it open, then go looking for somebody in the dark who can clearly hear me thumping down the stairs.
I very much doubt I could pull the trigger and without a lot of training I doubt I could react in any sensible way.
I like the idea of having a gun, but if it meant that criminals were more likely to shoot me, or my mental neighbour could buy one then I'd rather go without.
What we should have in this country are licensed ranges where you can shoot an AR-15 for an hour, just to see what it is like. The police could run them to raise money or something.
Having a weapon inside of the home is impractical because it would mean carrying it around with me all the time, on the off chance that someone wants to break in while I'm in the house.
Likewise if I'm asleep and a noise wakes me, I'd still have to get to a gunsafe and get it open, then go looking for somebody in the dark who can clearly hear me thumping down the stairs.
I very much doubt I could pull the trigger and without a lot of training I doubt I could react in any sensible way.
I like the idea of having a gun, but if it meant that criminals were more likely to shoot me, or my mental neighbour could buy one then I'd rather go without.
What we should have in this country are licensed ranges where you can shoot an AR-15 for an hour, just to see what it is like. The police could run them to raise money or something.
Man of Honour
Presumably thinking of the "stand your ground" extension to the "castle doctrine" - as I understand it though there is still a requirement to believe that deadly force is necessary. If my understanding is correct then that would suggest you still can't shoot people on a whim or if they are retreating and present no danger to you.
If you're interested then the text of the act is here although in common with too many UK laws there is a certain lack of clarity regarding some of the subordinate clauses.
Soldato
I'd thought that not being able to fire them on ranges was the main reason people were unhappy with the ban.
Isn't that reason enough? There is no other use for my bow than sport and that is perfectly legal.
Oh OK, I wouldn't actually mind gunranges but I wouldn't really want them to be privately run. I would rather have them run by the police or maybe an independent body.
this lol, f making guns legal here...
No thanks. As nice as it would be for enthusiasts to have the freedom to own firearms, use them at a firing range etc, it's certainly not worth the inevitable end result of legal firearms becoming illegal firearms through theft, burglary etc.
There's no legitimate reason for firearms ownership as a means of self-defence in this country, given the relatively low number of firearms actually used by criminals. The average burglar or mugger isn't going to have a gun.
In any case, this entire argument is rather irrelevant without first discussing having a routinely-armed police service. If you're going to have members of the public in possession of firearms to this degree, the police are going to need them too.
There's no legitimate reason for firearms ownership as a means of self-defence in this country, given the relatively low number of firearms actually used by criminals. The average burglar or mugger isn't going to have a gun.
In any case, this entire argument is rather irrelevant without first discussing having a routinely-armed police service. If you're going to have members of the public in possession of firearms to this degree, the police are going to need them too.
Soldato
Most of the UK has evolved beyond the need to shoot everyone who doesn't agree with us, we just put them in prison or deport them
Soldato
OP, have you ever been to Texas ?. When we were there one guy showed his respect for guns by shooting at some other bloke for cutting him up on George Bush highway. If the uk ever decided carrying guns was sensible I would be on the first ferry out of here.
10/10 for either naivety or trolling.
10/10 for either naivety or trolling.
Associate
Guns are dangerous, no need for them to be allowed in the public society.
and yes i use to own a Koch G3A4 for 2 years while i was in the army.
and yes i use to own a Koch G3A4 for 2 years while i was in the army.
You haven't exposed one of the mysteries of the universe there, I like wine, I'm all in favour of middle aged people being allowed to buy it.
Coincidence? Not really
