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I understand your point but the fact is that most of the web still uses flash (including BBC).smaller sites without webmasters who paid for one off designs are unlikely to change soon, large sites may take years to evolve away from flash etc. I think a closer analogy is a major manufacturer only selling electric cars because petrol damage the environment. It is plain irritating until we have the infrastructure and technology in place to make the experience comparable to using petrol.
Think I might do that, and use a couple of vouchers as well.
Hope we get the free media and £15 as well.
Smaller websites I'm not too worried about, but its the larger guys who provide streaming and other services as part of their daily business who need to make the switch if they are to survive.
You do!
Websites yes, but streaming media. HLS support is getting better on android, it doesnt Just have to be html5. They can offer us the same streams iphones see and it will play.
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it wasnt android who decided to stop supporting flash in jellybean, it was adobe, they know its dead, with that surely the bigger companies such as bbc iplayer should have already changed all of their stuff to html5 (esp as they've already got it running on another platform).
Sure the smaller sites are screwed, but now apple, google and adobe themselves no longer have interest in flash, flash should be dead.
Never even knew it was there, and you're right, it doesn't work. If anyone else wants to check it, it's under Settings > Language & Input > Voice Search .
The problem is augmented by the fact that all of them continue to and will keep supporting flash on desktop environments.
Adobe promote flash because it maintains DRM better, Google support flash natively in the biggest desktop web browser and despite all the snarling from apple, imacs can deal with flash without a hitch.
It might prompt change if flash support ceased entirely but all that has happened is that the major companies have said flash is dead on mobile but great for desktop and we want to keep it like that.
This is despite mobile browsing being a huge growth market.
Kill it properly or support it properly.
A few people have already said that they have.
I may risk getting another one but I don't know what's best. Would it make sense to wait a couple of weeks for the new stock to be shipped out and hope the QA issues have been sorted?
And for anyone that doesn't have one yet and wants one, you can reserve and collect on the purple shirt stores website now.
When I called them they told me that since I didn't cancel within the first hour after placing the order the only thing I can do is refuse delivery.
Most people get a device, take a quick look at arms length and see if it works, and use it until it either it stops working or they don't want it anymore.
If you are asking me does the device work, then yes it does. If you are asking me if I've inspected it to within an inch of its life without any tolerance to small mass manufacturing defects then no I haven't gone that far.
All items are manufactured to specific manufacturing tolerances not perfection. The higher the value of the item then generally the tighter the tolerance, chances are most mass manufactured items made today have some kind of imperfection somewhere, a close inspection of most motherboards for instance will reveal resistors etc that are not quite straight or perfectly straight.... Having worked in manufacturing this is how it is I'm afraid.
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Just picking one bit of what you said, imac's is very general. I know for a fact there are still people out there running a few year old version of flash and having very poor performance on older imacs. Maybe its just me and been picky, but 'imac' covers their ppc versions too which they have stopped supporting flash on as well.
HTML5 is still been sold to the masses, and given time may prove itself enough for desktop users to notice how much it can do. Apple have their HLS video format which can support DRM and its their choice format for streaming to their phones.
I'm saying HLS, but i'm not even sure what format BBC Iplayer feeds apple devices anymore, I do know that netflix is working out of the box on JB
Fair enough, but I think it's worth checking out to see if you have the lose screen issue as I believe Google themselves are telling customers to return, as it could put added pressure on the screen over time causing damage.