Well they were wrong.
Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani
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Well they were wrong.
No that thread was at the towards the end of city's title winning season 2011-12 not in the season August 12 onwards when united won the league.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18391134&highlight=Comparison
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Regardless you still has people picking valencia in that team. Or claiming rooney was better than aguero etc..
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Rooney is better than Aguero...
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You're not seriously suggesting that Rafael is in the same league as Baines are you? Rafael is very good, and potentially excellent, but he's not as good as Baines. Not even close.
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Indeed, he's younger, has more potential and has played at a higher level.
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Played at a higher level, yes. Younger, yes. Has more potential? Debatable. Is in the same league as Baines is now? Still no, not even close.
He clearly has more potential. Baines is playing at his peak, he doesn't have much (if any at all) potential to improve. The question shouldn't be whether Rafael has more potential, it should be whether Rafael has the potential to be better than Baines.
Given their ages and lifespans, it would be hard to justify spending more on Baines than Rafael. That doesn't mean Rafael's is better or as good as Baines now, just that he represents better value.
Given their ages and lifespans, it would be hard to justify spending more on Baines than Rafael. That doesn't mean Rafael's is better or as good as Baines now, just that he represents better value.
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Plus Baines has that free kick.
Shami your bias makes all utd fans look bad.
Plus I'm not sure how you can come to the conclusion that rooney is better than kun
Shami your bias makes all utd fans look bad.
Plus I'm not sure how you can come to the conclusion that rooney is better than kun
I don't think you should be commenting on such things considering the things you reel off on a daily basis.
I think he is, he has more to his game. Obviously other people won't agree, but Aguero is often fairly anonymous in the smaller games, and they're important too.
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On technical ability, pace , potential etc kun is well ahead of rooney.
In terms of aggression and running around the pitch rooney offers more. That's what I said two years ago in that thread and it still holds true today
In terms of aggression and running around the pitch rooney offers more. That's what I said two years ago in that thread and it still holds true today
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You'd think that, but even at his age Baines just seems to get better each year. While I'd agree that Rafael does have more room to improve himself, I would find it hard to agree that he has the potential to be better (at his best) than Baines is right now.
I can see the logic in that, but for me, spending £25m on a right back with known injury issues is madness. At least with Baines you're paying for a proven performer who adds so much, both defensively (a part of his game often overlooked) and offensively. Plus those free-kicks are worth £10m alone surely!
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Now my colleagues are asking my why I'm laughing so hard.
What Rafael goes on to become only time will tell but he certainly has the raw materials to be a very good fullback.
As for his value, I don't think for one minute he's worth anything like £25m even if he didn't have the injury problems. At the same time I don't think Baines is worth anything like that either.
Baines is in a situation that makes it very hard for him to be sold. His importance to Everton means that they can't sell him for anything other than an inflated fee (that could change depending on the length of his contract) but equally any sensibly run club would struggle to justify paying a big fee on him because of his age.
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Agreed completely. I honestly think Baines is the best left back in Europe right now (but admitting I am a little biased), and the way we've built the team around using him probably makes him worth £20m+ to Everton. His age stops him being worth that to anyone else though.
I'm not a violent person, but every time I read Manyoo and Citeh I want to punch something, mainly the person writing it.
Also, even with the transfer window shut this thread is still getting dragged along with random speculation and pointless personal opinions.
I need to stop clicking on this thread, it's not good for me.
Also, even with the transfer window shut this thread is still getting dragged along with random speculation and pointless personal opinions.
I need to stop clicking on this thread, it's not good for me.
Give the lad a season or something, there's only been four games and its like the rodwell situation again.
He wasn't good enough to clean Michael Browns boots last season and before that he was at the likes of Sheff Wed!
Now he's the second coming because he's young and English. Media hype as per.
Barkley was brilliant at Wednesday. I'd have swapped a limb to keep a player of his quality. It was very clear he was far, far too good for Wednesday and the Championship.
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Agreed. Pointless thread is pointless
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