Yes, I've already said Marcelo is good going forward. He's not as good as Baines going forward though. I don't know how it ended, but in roughly March this year (so 3/4s of the way through the season), Baines was the most creative player in Europe's 5 leagues, creating more chances than anyone else. I didn't see Marcelo's name there.
Those chance creation stats can be somewhat misleading. Baines played in a side that put a lot of crosses into the box, not always from great positions and was also Everton's main set-piece taker.
Every time Baines flung a cross in and Fellaini managed to get a bit of his afro on the end of it, it goes down as a chance created.
As for how good Baines is, I don't think you can simply compare him to others. I said at the time when Utd were looking at signing him that I wasn't convinced it was a good move for them. Not because Evra's better than Baines but because I'm not sure Baines is the type of LB that Utd needed (although if Moyes ends up using Fellaini like he did at Everton that might change). How many of the top European sides want or need a LB that will swing crosses in from 20-30 yards from goal? Not many. A lot of the fullbacks at big sides are pacey players that will overlap some kind of inside forward/winger and their main purpose is to stretch teams to create more space for those forwards.
This also applies to DM's stats arguement. Put Baines in the Barca side and how many assists is he going to get? Not a lot I'd have thought. Baines is effective for Everton because Everton play to his strengths.
Do you think before you post Tummy? How did this discussion start? You contributing nothing and just having a pop, as you put it.Oh look, it's Moses, contributing nothing again and having a pop again, like clockwork.
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