AMD Radeon R9 290X with Hawaii GPU pictured, has 512-bit 4GB Memory

=XDC=FluphyBunny · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:30

FoxEye said:
I'm a bit confused about the upgrade path for 7850 users? The 280X is a different price bracket altogether, and the 270X doesn't seem to be much of a jump in performance?

270x - 7950 refresh with 1GB of vram less
EDIT: Looking at other responses this may just be a 7870!

280x - 7970 Ghz edition refresh

290x - the only genuine 'new' Hawcard

Mantle I assumne works on all and TrueAudio (which took up a great deal of the presentation) only comes on the 290x

Really this launch will rely heavily on the price point.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:33

Hands-on with the card:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MU-DIKvY3U&feature=youtu.be&t=11m38s

It seems to light up!!

FoxEye · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:36

=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
270x - 7950 refresh with 1GB of vram less
EDIT: Looking at other responses this may just be a 7870!

280x - 7970 Ghz edition refresh

290x - the only genuine 'new' Hawcard

Mantle I assumne works on all and TrueAudio (which took up a great deal of the presentation) only comes on the 290x

Really this launch will rely heavily on the price point.

So there's a massive, massive gulf between the 270X (7870) and the 280X (7970). There's no 7950 equivalent. Effectively no upgrade for us 7850 users, unless you want to spend £150 for 10% more (7850 -> 7870).

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:38

There is also the R290.

humbug · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:39

FoxEye said:
So there really isn't a worthwhile mid range upgrade, then. It's either move to the 280X or stay put.

Or get a 7950, which will be 2-3 years old by now

Wait and see, i could be wrong but i can't see them just releasing a series of full fat GPU's only, what do they do with the salvage chips?

Like the 7950 and 7870XT are salvage chips from the 7970.

290X Hawaii XT
290 Hawaii Pro (salvage)

280X Tahiti XT = 7970
280 Tahiti Pro = 7950 (salvage)

270X Pitcairn XT = 7870
270 Pitcairn Pro = 7850 (salvage)

LtMatt said:
Woah, didn't see that coming. I thought the 512bit was definite.

meh... its fine

~>Dg<~ · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:39

FoxEye said:
So there really isn't a worthwhile mid range upgrade, then. It's either move to the 280X or stay put.

Or get a 7950, which will be 2-3 years old by now

so buy the http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HS

173.00 oc to 7970 ghz speeds = win . 280X Tahiti XT for 173 quid they wont be that cheap and can have it now .

Boomstick777 · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:42

FoxEye said:
So there's a massive, massive gulf between the 270X (7870) and the 280X (7970). There's no 7950 equivalent. Effectively no upgrade for us 7850 users, unless you want to spend £150 for 10% more (7850 -> 7870).

270X - HD 7950.
280X - HD 7970.

290X - New Part.

LtMatt · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:43

humbug said:
Wait and see, i could be wrong but i can't see them just releasing a series of full fat GPU's only, what do they do with the salvage chips?

Like the 7950 and 7870XT are salvage chips from the 7970.

290X Hawaii XT
290 Hawaii Pro (salvage)

280X Tahiti XT = 7970
280 Tahiti Pro = 7950 (salvage)

270X Pitcairn XT = 7870
270 Pitcairn Pro = 7850 (salvage)

meh... its fine

But i used the 512bit bus in some of my discussions. That immediately makes all those points invalid.

I'm giving up speculating, things keep changing on a daily basis.

When is the NDA over?

humbug · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:45

LtMatt said:
But i used the 512bit bus in some of my discussions. That immediately makes all those points invalid.

I'm giving up speculating, things keep changing on a daily basis.

When is the NDA over?

lol..... you will get over it

soon... they had a 290X box with BF4 pre order on display, that suggest its in the shops before BF4.

I'm thinking early next week for NDA, i think someone somewhere mentioned Monday?

555BUK · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:46

The leaked PCB pictures show 16x GDDR IC's. This makes for 256bit (unlikely) or 512bit buses. On a 384bit card I would expect 12 or 6 GDDR IC's, so I believe 512bit and 4GB GDDR5 is much more likely over anything else.

humbug · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:47

555BUK said:
The leaked PCB pictures show 16x GDDR IC's. This makes for 256bit (unlikely) or 512bit buses. On a 384bit card I would expect 12 or 6 GDDR IC's, so I think 512bit a 4GB GDDR5 is much more likely than anything else.

Mixed density, think GTX 660 TI with 2GB vRam @ 192Bit.

Some @ 32Bit some @ 16bit

StonedPenguin · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:48

Didn't that asian fella confirm 512 bit on the presentation the other night, If thats what you wanna call it

FoxEye · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:48

Boomstick777 said:
270X - HD 7950.
280X - HD 7970.

290X - New Part.

The 270X is a 7870 re-badge tho, not a 7950. From what people have been saying/ reporting.

humbug · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:49

StonedPenguin said:
Didn't that asian fella confirm 512 bit on the presentation the other night, If thats what you wanna call it

erm? no? dunno....

StonedPenguin · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:49

humbug said:
erm? no? dunno....

Sure he did, I'll try to find a clip

Gregster · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:51

Still not confirmed but as the 290x being touted as 4K ready, it would be 512 bit and rather daft to put 256 bit.

humbug · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:51

384Bit.... ^^^^^ you wind me up

StonedPenguin said:
Sure he did, I'll try to find a clip

ok...

uksoldierboy · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:52

Sure AMD said in the show that the 290x was 512? :confused:

humbug · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:55

uksoldierboy said:
Sure AMD said in the show that the 290x was 512?

I must have fallen asleep with all that audio nonsense going on...

uksoldierboy · 27 Sep 2013 at 10:56

humbug said:
I must have fallen asleep with all that audio nonsense going on...

Lol i'm surprised i didn't to be fair

i may be wrong though, i was too busy laughing and that audio guy.