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We are policed by consent, which is indicated when a copper reads you your rights OR asks you 'do you understand?'

This reminds me of the old joke:

A London lawyer runs a stop sign and gets pulled over by a Glasgow copper.

He thinks that he is smarter than the cop because he is a lawyer from LONDON and is certain that he has a better education then any Jock cop.

He decides to prove this to himself and have some fun at the Glasgow cops expense!

Glasgow cop says, ” Licence and registration, please.”
London Lawyer says, “What for?”

Glasgow cop says, “Ye didn't come to a complete stop at the stop sign.”

London Lawyer says, “I slowed down, and no one was coming.”

Glasgow cop says, “Ye still didn't come to a complete stop. Licence and registration, please”

London Lawyer says, “What’s the difference?”

Glasgow cop says, “The difference is, ye have to come to complete stop, that’s the law. Licence and registration, please!”

London Lawyer says, “If you can show me the legal difference between slow down and stop, I’ll give you my licence and registration and you give me the ticket. If not, you let me go and don’t give me the ticket.”

Glasgow cop says, “Sounds fair. Exit your vehicle, sir.”

The London Lawyer exits his vehicle.

The Glasgow cop takes out his baton and starts beating the living **** out of the lawyer and says, “Do ye want me to stop, or just slow doon?”

Understand is synonymous with 'stand under'. So when they say do you 'understand' by replying 'yes' you are standing under 'their' rules.

No, it's not. It's synonymous with "comprehend" or "follow" amongst other possible synonyms - just because you could separate out two words from one doesn't mean that there's a composite there that still means the same when you break it apart and switch the words around. You don't go round telling people that "staircase" is synonymous with there being a case of stairs or that a "cupboard" is a board of cups do you? If you do then perhaps it's best if the conversation ends here.

Freemen of the land tend to prove the often misquoted line from a poem by Alexander Pope which tells us that - "A little learning is a dangerous thing". The general rule with such things is that the Freemen fixate on a small part of the law and presume that they've then understood all of it when all that has happened is that they've taken something out of context. They'll have occasional victories when they succeed in confusing the person they talk to (or rather at) but there is rarely anything of substance to the points they are making.
 
This reminds me of the old joke:

A London lawyer runs a stop sign and gets pulled over by a Glasgow copper.

He thinks that he is smarter than the cop because he is a lawyer from LONDON and is certain that he has a better education then any Jock cop.

He decides to prove this to himself and have some fun at the Glasgow cops expense!

Glasgow cop says, ” Licence and registration, please.”
London Lawyer says, “What for?”

Glasgow cop says, “Ye didn't come to a complete stop at the stop sign.”

London Lawyer says, “I slowed down, and no one was coming.”

Glasgow cop says, “Ye still didn't come to a complete stop. Licence and registration, please”

London Lawyer says, “What’s the difference?”

Glasgow cop says, “The difference is, ye have to come to complete stop, that’s the law. Licence and registration, please!”

London Lawyer says, “If you can show me the legal difference between slow down and stop, I’ll give you my licence and registration and you give me the ticket. If not, you let me go and don’t give me the ticket.”

Glasgow cop says, “Sounds fair. Exit your vehicle, sir.”

The London Lawyer exits his vehicle.

The Glasgow cop takes out his baton and starts beating the living **** out of the lawyer and says, “Do ye want me to stop, or just slow doon?”

Quite obviously an American joke that's been modified... "Licence and registration, please" not usually being something a UK Police officer says.

On a more serious note - you shouldn't mess around with US Stop signs in hick towns... merely slowing down can lead to the authorities anal probing you several times....

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/07/usa-newmexico-lawsuit-idUSL2N0IR2HG20131107

:eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
Yeah we cut the cable from the aerial too. The cable hangs on an outside wall so if an inspector ever does come round I'll just show him that. If he's unconvinced then he's free to come in and have a look around if he so wishes. I'll even offer him a nice cup of tea!

If I were you I'd just let him in, he'll soon see that he's wasting his time and hopefully leave you alone. We get the odd letter asking us if we've started watching it again and that we're going to be investigated (:eek:) but I just let them get on with it.

I can't cut it outside as it is a rented property and it came pre wired and i would not want to cut the wire for the next person or have to pay to refit it when I leave. there was about 5m of cable inside so i just cut that down to 20cm enough to connect the wire to more wire.

I don't want to give them my name and details and i don't want to let them in the house. I have told them at the door that i don't watch tv but i don't think they believed me.
 
I can't cut it outside as it is a rented property and it came pre wired and i would not want to cut the wire for the next person or have to pay to refit it when I leave. there was about 5m of cable inside so i just cut that down to 20cm enough to connect the wire to more wire.

I don't want to give them my name and details and i don't want to let them in the house. I have told them at the door that i don't watch tv but i don't think they believed me.

Then ask them the name of who lives there? Once he puts on a confused face slam the door. They have been witing to me for years and not one single visit. It keeps going from important notification of court appearance to the very first warning letters and back and forth. They do not know the name of anyone who lives here and thats how it will stay.

I would not even ring them and give them the info. Under the law everyone is innocent until proven guilty. It is up to them to prove it not you so stand your ground.
 
Surely if you don't want to be hassled by them it would be easiest to just make an online declaration that you don't need a TV license, you don't need to give them your name and you could easily use a temporary email address that lasts an hour. They don't get any information from you, and you stop getting letters from them.
 
This thread demonstrates one of the reasons I got rid of my letterbox, I found it had solely become a means for royal mail to deliver proverbial turds into my home in the form of harassment letters from TV licensing and deluges of spam, now not only do I not get any more junk mail but it is automatically returned to the sender so they now have to deal with it at their own cost, a victory if ever there was one!
 
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Read this site and make what you think of it, it has some very instrresting points which will open your eyes to what is really going on around us

http://www.yourstrawman.com/

I think Rational Wiki does a sufficiently good job of pointing out why that is a non-starter. Even if we were to assume that these folks are right and your legal identity is separable from your "real" identity (I don't happen to accept their argument but for the sake of debate...) then being right is all very nice but it's not going to prevent you from suffering sanctions if the state is willing to use force to back up its position.
 
I wouldn't even have a tv license if it wasn't for the Mrs. I only ever download or stream from Netflix and even then it's rare. I really don't get how they can enforce, am I right in saying that we pay for a tv license just to fund the BBC? Why can't they be dependant and go off ratings like any other station? Or fund their programming with ads? Its a bit unfair that most people don't have a choice.
 
Dons

I was going to start a new thread, but in case you'd prefer it in here....

Any chance of a poll to see who does have a TV licence, and who doesn't?
 
Dons

I was going to start a new thread, but in case you'd prefer it in here....

Any chance of a poll to see who does have a TV licence, and who doesn't?

Don't really see why we need to start a new thread for that.
It'll just be filled out by those that do actually have a license, a small minority of people who really don't have one and then a massive chunk of keyboard warriors ticking the "I don't have a license and still watch TV" option.
 
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