29 million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in our country

[Storm3y]

So has the UKs population went up by a few million over night like what the Daily Fail predicted?

 

[android guy]

So has the UKs population went up by a few million over night like what the Daily Fail predicted?

Just one of them is way too many.

 

[Danthus]

The Guardian ran a poll, the results were that:

Ipsos Mori survey shows 72% of people aged 35-44 support rights of east European workers to live and work in UK

Then you look at the question asked.

“Romanians and Bulgarians coming to Britain have got to learn the language, work hard and pay taxes, fit in and be part of the community. If they do that, we should welcome them to the UK”

 

[dirtychinchilla]

That's not a question.

 

[leaskovski]

I for one welcome our new dirty Romanian strippers.

 

[englishpremier]

I prefer Bulgarians

 

[Mynight]

Russians

 

[Cosimo]

I for one welcome our new dirty Romanian strippers.

.... and plasterers, decorators with the odd pickpocket thrown in as a bonus.

 

[Mynight]

As long as they stay away from electrics I have no issue with them

 

[One]

And what happens when everyone wants to live in LA or San Tropez or [insert other hot and pleasant place to live]?

Your fantasy of open borders depends massively on the effective communism of world economies and then even if you achieve that then why would anyone choose to live in a rainy part of the world when they could live in a hot one and get a tan?

People live in Thurso, even though they could live in Gibraltar.

 

[[TW]Fox]

People live in Thurso, even though they could live in Gibraltar.

Gibraltar is hardly some sort of world beating paradise city, is it?

(Nice though it is, the fact it isnt full of the entire population of the UK is not a reason why open borders would work fine).

 

[englishpremier]

Gibraltar is hardly some sort of world beating paradise city, is it?

(Nice though it is, the fact it isnt full of the entire population of the UK is not a reason why open borders would work fine).

Well you mentioned LA, that's even worse.

St Tropez is quite nice, but it's nothing special.

Do you think that open borders would work between UK, AUS, New Zealand, Canada?

 

[dowie]

Not having a go at immigrants but it's obvious that unskilled Briton's are getting penalised by mass immigration from these poorer countries, with the propaganda machine bashing them as lazy and unwilling.

well if you've been brought up in the UK, had access to free education, funding for college, university etc.. and you've ended up with no useful skills to sell in the labour market then being labelled 'lazy and unwilling' probably isn't too unreasonable in a lot of circumstances

 

[dowie]

I for one welcome our new dirty Romanian strippers.

technically they're self employed so have been able to come here since 2007 anyway... ditto to ladies of negotiable affection and plenty of builders, tradespeople etc...

 

[zoptaa]

We don't have much net immigration in fact, but hey don't let facts spoil a firmly held opinion.
The Poles for instance are leaving faster than they are coming. Also, surveys have shown that only a small number of Romanians and Bulgarians are planning to migrate, and that of those Britain is only the 4th choice destination after Spain, France and Italy.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

Yeah but you really don't want people knowing the truth!!!!

 

[Stretch]

well if you've been brought up in the UK, had access to free education, funding for college, university etc.. and you've ended up with no useful skills to sell in the labour market then being labelled 'lazy and unwilling' probably isn't too unreasonable in a lot of circumstances

It's not just unskilled, "lazy" workers that could potentially be disadvantaged by an influx of migrant workers from Romania.

The Romanian government has offered a lot of assistance to the IT sector over the last decade, and the country has a lot of young IT workers, but salaries are a third what they are here.

Many have come already through employer sponsorship. But it's going to get slightly tougher for graduates wanting their first position in industry.

 

[Biohazard]

And what? How do you stop people migrating due to varying economic circumstances and potential earnings intra-EU and further afield?

We have free movement of people, within the UK and within the EU.

This is a historic and natural phenomenon encapsulated in law.

 

[Merlin5]

The problem we have is that workers migrating to the UK, unskilled particularly, are exploited and happily accept the lowest wage possible. This means that they don't pay any tax at the amount they'll likely earn, which does nothing to help the economy. British workers meanwhile cannot afford to do the same jobs for those puny wages unless they're also happy to live 5 to a room like the migrants do. It's all wrong. UK should have contested this EU ruling and should have at least been allowed to restrict the borders at its discretion. Sorry to sound like a stereotype. I may be wrong, I may be uninformed. It's how I feel though.

 

[dowie]

It's not just unskilled, "lazy" workers that could potentially be disadvantaged by an influx of migrant workers from Romania.

The Romanian government has offered a lot of assistance to the IT sector over the last decade, and the country has a lot of young IT workers, but salaries are a third what they are here.

Many have come already through employer sponsorship. But it's going to get slightly tougher for graduates wanting their first position in industry.

Sorry but I don't really see that as a bad thing... some other govt pays to train up a bunch of skilled workers and they then come over here to put those skills into practice... seems like a pretty good deal for us.