Traded this in on Saturday. Gone back to Battlefield 4 and some single player stuff I want to get back into. With Destiny in the drive there was no way anything else was ever going to get played so I've bitten the bullet and sold it.
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So what's the difference between getting randoms off here to randoms from an auto generated system? It doesn't prevent you from grouping up with your mates, just enables more people to play the content.
Just makes you sound very elitist. Whether you are or not doesn't really change the point, if it opens the game up to more people it's very likely to happen.
I prefer working out the levels myself than be boosted through content, so I look forward to joining the socially awkward randomly generated groups in the future
At least you get the satisfaction of knowing you don't have to play with noobs like me
The difference is that the group has the choice to reject players who don't have a mic and aren't interested in team work.
Get an auto match making system going together and you've got no control over who joins you. What the heck are you supposed to do if you get somebody who is not using game chat and can't hear you ? and then decides he wants to sack it off and leave it for you to do all the work ?
You're assuming that given the option to auto match make, you would get nothing but people willing and able to participate and work as team.
Just look at the trouble people have had with strikes where they've had to sit down and wait for **** players to disconnect because the game provides no functionality to remove players from the fireteam.
there really is. I'm telling you now, you would never complete Vault Of Glass with a bunch of randoms using comms. How many strikes have been in where all 3 players have been using comms and working as a team when you've solo'd one and been put with 2 randoms ?
I've not had one yet. VOG would be no different. If you want to do it, make friends with people on here and join the groups. There are loads on both platforms.
Once you open it up to match making, thats where all the complaints come from that they can't do it, it needs to be made easier. It just shifts the complaints from "we can't get into the vault of glass" to "we can't complete the vault of glass"
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I can be on around 3 if you wanna try then? Won't be back before then
EDIT: And LOL at elitism - some people just act as idiots even when spoon fed. Ever thought it just advice because we've done the raid and can clearly anticipate what bits that are really gonna give you bother so telling you upfront...
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So VOG is too difficult to be done by random's eh? Nonsense. I would put money on hard mode being done by Christmas by a some sort of so called uber team with some other restriction on them, 3, 4 or 5 man teams, or some sort of other way to make it harder for them. It happens every single time this sort of game comes out. Just because it is hard now when the game has been out for a month, doesn't mean it still will be in the not too distant future.
The team that we had on Friday night all went in blind with exception of one person. We didn't really struggle that much (except for the platforming bit) and anything we did struggle on we eventually figured out.
If they open up match making because the vault of glass is easier, then we've already lost the battle.
The whole reason people are saying there should be no match making, is because we don't want it made any easier.
we had no sunslingers in the Xbox group I was part of. Myself, Martin, Rob, Nuts, G0rd and a random. No sun singers at all.
The whole reason people are saying there should be no match making, is because we don't want it made any easier.
Impossible to do it with 3 with the current VoG requirements. 4 level 30 sunsingers could probably do the raid on hard
Most impressive thing would be a non-sunsinger group doing it IMHO
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we had no sunslingers in the Xbox group I was part of. Myself, Martin, Rob, Nuts, G0rd and a random. No sun singers at all.
Yet again I am completely flummoxed. Why would creating match making have any impact on the difficulty of the raid? If people are saying that 4 level 30 players can do the raid on hard, it's already too easy in my view. Leave the difficulty alone, bring in matchmaking, what's so difficult about it?
Wow you did the raid on hard - kudos! Did you record it? Didn't think anyone had did that yet
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No this was on normal. Didn't realize you were referencing doing it on hard mode
Its already been done by 2 seprate groups.
http://www.twinfinite.net/2014/09/24/vault-of-glass-hard-mode/
Considering that very little have managed hard mode yet, I'd doubt that you could do it 4 considering Atheon would teleport 3 of them and leave only 1 to defend. All it takes is one exploding harpie to take him out at any point and its game over.
I've said already
it just changes the complaints from "I can't get into the vault of glass" to "I can't complete the vault of glass and get all the decent gear that others have"
Seriously, if you have no realistic prospect of finishing it, why bother attempting it ? people are only going to do it if they are going to get something out of it. If you aren't, why would they bother ?
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This needs to happen, it's very annoying having the same one again and again. I was actually disappointed when I unlocked the strike playlist as I thought I was getting access to loads of different ones that were different to those found just on the planet screens, but just at higher difficulties. The recent patch which improved the rewards have made them a bit better and more worth playing though, still think they should reward a lot more reputation points and marks though!
My post wasn't that long
- both groups had sunsingers I thought so not really what I thought would be impressive...My point is more the level of damage they can do is good enough so that they minimise the possibility of dying - I'd assume you wouldn't take a bad player into the raid on hard anyway!
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Dunno, Sunsingers have a nasty habbit of reviving themselves. It might be possible if timed right I guess. Would be part of the challenge at least!
There's ways to keep yourself out of the exploding harpies tbh - only jumping between sync plates would cause issue, but that's why I mentioned sunsingers so at least you have that second chance with your super...
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Argh! And who exactly are you to say there is no point in randoms attempting it because they will fail miserably as they can't get a team together without matchmaking? As I said, I couldn't care less if I die over and over and over and over, I at least want to have the opportunity to TRY the raid that is apparently the best thing in the whole game.
I don't think anyone is really saying that - what we are trying to say is that the 5 randoms might not have your mentality and may drop out sooner than you - then the VoG gets hard to do especially if you haven't run parts multiple times to know what to do.
I know as soon as we've had a mate whose dropped out we stop the raid and just don't attempt it as a 5, but maybe that might be because we all want to get through it together...
EDIT: Thinking about it there's so much we do automatically because we know each others temperament and skills (who is the backup shield people or where we need to move resources when we are a man down and waiting to revive etc) that I can imagine doing the raid with 5 randoms to be actually fun unless you are very lucky with the matchmaking...
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How difficult is the weekly heroic to do solo? I've got a bounty to complete the weekly heroic or the nightfall strike and it's the only bounty I have left today. Only want to do it as I'm close to another vanguard level and I want my free legendary item(s).
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There are solo guides on youtube 