2,000 migrants tried to enter channel tunnel last night!
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Are you sure?
Imagine a country with 50% of the population, of 10 million, who are "shirkers". You have 5 million workers supporting 5 million unproductives.
Now, introduce 1 million immigrants, for whom the shirker proportion is 5%. You now have nearly 6 million workers supporting a little over 5 million unproductives.
How is that not better?
Because we have a population of 11 million while our national infrastructure (schools, hospitals, roads, rail, housing etc) can only support a population of 10 million.
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Where are these 1 million or so jobs?
But we have almost 20% more tax to upgrade that. As long as government isn't mismanaging such resources and failing to perform its role in correctly planning and financing such.
Probably generated in much the same way as we have absorbed a 5 million or so population increase in the past 10 years, with unemployment remaining broadly unchanged. Domestic demand generates a lot of jobs, as does a more productive (hence internationally competitive) workforce.
You are in a online group that is primarily run by Romanians are you not? I wonder how they would feel about the way you describe them ...
But we need those schools, hospitals etc now - not in 5 years when the procurement cycle was complete. Incidentally, these projects wouldn't be funded by extra tax revenue - they'd be funded by more borrowing which according to this government is a bad thing.
It's a bit difficult for governments to plan for immigration when we are forced by EU law to have an open door policy that lets any EU citizen move to the UK without informing us at all.
Oh, in that case we'd better shut up shop and tread water. It's too difficult.
less than 10% are unemployed? it's like 6-7%?
How many of these immigrant scum bags have chance of employment? what do they offer other than being an illegal worker with no benefit to the country ?
They should be sent home to where they came from and executed as traitors
In the majority of cases I imagine that they have friends or family here already or perhaps speak a bit of English. On top of that, Britain is generally viewed as being a friendly nation.
Most of the African immigrants head for Sweden and Germany. The UK is about halfway down the list of preferred destinations. You wouldn't think that from reading the news though.
Impossible I would say to properly govern a country while having an open door immigration policy.
Right on.
On the other hand, the population has been steadily trending upwards for at least 25 years, at a fairly predictable rate (a slight upward curve). It's not exactly rocket science to map future needs.
So why haven't we improved our infrastructure to cope with that increase then?
Schools aren't built in the country - they're built in relatively tiny catchement areas. It's difficult to know exactly the population growth is going to occur.
All these immigrants are fleeing war torn countries where war is still ongoing. Even if we rid these countries with the current dictators, it leaves a leader-less country which is then a breeding ground for terrorists.
The world is basically screwed whichever option western governments choose to try and resolve this issue.
The channel tunnel really needs some blast doors so it can be locked at night, as that's when the majority of these immigrants will plan to storm it.
The world is basically screwed whichever option western governments choose to try and resolve this issue.
The channel tunnel really needs some blast doors so it can be locked at night, as that's when the majority of these immigrants will plan to storm it.
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Shoot a few of them, they will soon give up trying to get to England
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Maybe so, but at least they are British scroungers scrounging from their own lands.
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Studies have shown that immigrants (not illegal immigrants, as beachBOYken's post was referring to the EU freedom of movement and therefore legal immigrants) have, overall, either a tiny net benefit or cost to the UK. The number of hardworking immigrants pay for the number of nonhardworking immigrants, effectively.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/58...ways-food-Port-of-Dover-law-migration-UKIP-EU
Slightly lopsided.
I wonder what the result would be if the same question was asked on the Guardian website.
Slightly lopsided.
I wonder what the result would be if the same question was asked on the Guardian website.
While there is still incentive (IE hope of once they get into the UK they will more than likely be able to live here) they will still come.
It needs to be no access on the other side, and if they somehow do get over they are exported straight back to France.
To stop the problem we have to make it clear there is nothing here for them, we wont be giving them shelter, food, money or jobs. Without a proper application processed from your country of origin you wont get in.
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