2,000 migrants tried to enter channel tunnel last night!

itchy · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:13

V F said:
This is what cheeses me off the most. Look what they leave behind before they move onto the next place. Every place looks like a dump. Like the life of tinkers.
God knows what the smell is like and the ground contamination.

But they could be skilled moral workers we need them? :rolleyes:

Caged · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:17

[TW]Fox;28389486 said:
Don't worry though, The Daily Mail are doing their best to help with this current top story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-cooked-meals-35-cash-week-days-arrival.html

I particularly like the selection of the pretentious looking chips complete with mini-fryer style serving you get in 'posh' places just to rile people up even more.

'With freeview televisions' too, what a hotel!

I wonder what the actual truth is behind that story?

A Daily Heil article has to contain at least six stock images because the readership are incapable of working out what a sandwich might look like.

itchy · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:22

Boycey0211 said:
So you didn't bother reading then, brilliant.

5. I explained point number 5 futher up in the thread, but as with most facts I think you've done a pretty good job of ignoring them all.

6. Its charity clothing that most of them have been given

7. No, they get travel to the next country along as that country doesnt have to deal with them if they leave of their own free will.

8. What you want to get a job in greece? good luck with that, keep going.

9. Agreed

10. Agreed, again I've previously stated that and the reasoning behind it, which you ignored.

Naive? Get the facts and come back with a valid argument, your sensible points are outweighed by drivel unfortunately.

I not getting in to a tit for tat argument with you.

Basics.

How do you propose we deal with these people, we have enough problems ourselves. We can do and have the resources and space for genuine people in crisis, but the is no way in this world they all running from so called persecution.

I do feel sorry for the genuine ones, but lets face it if you really want to claim asylum, the last thing you do is break the law.

A humble approach would be more appropriate so to say?

[TW]Fox · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:23

itchy said:
A humble approach would be more appropriate so to say?

Such as?

Sliver · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:24

[TW]Fox;28389526 said:
Such as?

+1

Interested to see what this humble approach consists of, please elaborate.

Caged · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:24

Sliver said:
+1

Interested to see what this humble approach consists of, please elaborate.

Also let's bear in mind that we are not part of the Schengen Area, so "leave the EU like Nige wants!!!111" isn't an answer.

V F · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:26

Moses said:
Where's it meant to go? Do you think they have bin men coming round collecting waste? Have you ever seen pictures of waste piling up during the winter of discontent?

https://www.google.com/search?q=winter+of+discontent+rubbish

Check out the images.

There's a huge difference between union strikes and others bringing their culture ways with them. The mess didn't exist before they arrived.

Boycey0211 · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:26

When presented with facts, call it a tit for tat argument.

Genuinely looking forward to the next post.

arknor · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:27

itchy said:
But they could be skilled moral workers we need them?

Clearly masters of their trade

Must be bin men to have such a rubbish tip

robfosters · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:28

[TW]Fox;28389486 said:
Don't worry though, The Daily Mail are doing their best to help with this current top story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-cooked-meals-35-cash-week-days-arrival.html

I particularly like the selection of the pretentious looking chips complete with mini-fryer style serving you get in 'posh' places just to rile people up even more.

'With freeview televisions' too, what a hotel!

I wonder what the actual truth is behind that story?

I'd say it's pretty much correct. If asylum detention centres are full, they have to go somewhere, and it's usually hotels. And it's well known that asylum seekers get £35 a week. And the hotels also give them three meals a day. For christ sakes, some of our own struggle to feed themselves 3 times a day. The whole thing is wrong. There will be civil unrest in this country sooner or later.

itchy · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:33

Oh the pressure !

The humble and intelligent approach would be if you had anything in between the ears.
Claim asylum in first safe country, then obtain a Italian, Greek, French etc passport, then you free to move all over the EU, including the UK. Job done.

Or Be a criminal and try to break into the UK? :eek:

Because that's what they doing. :rolleyes:

V F · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:33

Moses said:
It looks like Glastonbury, tbh.

But anyway, how do you propose they deal with the waste when there's no way to deal with the waste? Should they engineer a waste to energy power plant, or something?

If only politicians weren't starting endless wars in all these countries blowing up all their houses, villages and towns.

Sliver · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:35

itchy said:
Claim asylum in first safe country, then obtain a Italian, Greek, French etc passport, then you free to move all over the EU, including the UK. Job done.

If it was as simple as 'Job Done' as you put it, don't you think they would all do that ? Seriously, who's using the family brain cell right now ?

Boycey0211 · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:35

arknor said:
Clearly masters of their trade

Must be bin men to have such a rubbish tip

Both of you have taken the post completely out of context anyway.

Can't remember which one of you said it first, but one of you two said that 'none of them were skilled or had morals' (pretty sure it was you)

When called for proof you said it would be easier to pay and train someone british to do it (lol) and that people from a country outside this one couldnt be a mechanic on modern cars (lol, I suppose its only the UK that has cars then).

This was then quoted incorrectly by itchy assuming I said that they were all skilled moral workers and we should let them all in.

So between the two of you you've done quite well to spout drivel, misquote, requote incorrect information and display a complete lack of counter argument.

Caged · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:36

itchy said:
Oh the pressure !

The humble and intelligent approach would be if you had anything in between the ears.
Claim asylum in first safe country, then obtain a Italian, Greek, French etc passport, then you free to move all over the EU, including the UK. Job done.

Or Be a criminal and try to break into the UK?

Because that's what they doing.

Saying what you think these people should be doing is not a solution to the current problem.

Boycey0211 · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:37

Sliver said:
If it was as simple as 'Job Done' as you put it, don't you think they would all do that ? Seriously, who's using the family brain cell right now ?

No no no no no, its us thats stupid remember....

The humble and intelligent approach would be if you had anything in between the ears.

^^ when presented with fact, call everyone else stupid, GJ GD.

arknor · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:42

V F said:
If only politicians weren't starting endless wars in all these countries blowing up all their houses, villages and towns.

they aren't most of them are from africa.

the only african country we ever attacked libya?

When called for proof you said it would be easier to pay and train someone british to do it (lol) and that people from a country outside this one couldnt be a mechanic on modern cars (lol, I suppose its only the UK that has cars then).

Have you ever been to africa? the places you would need to escape persecution don't have bustling cities with modern cars...

Do you own a business that benefits from migrant wages ?

itchy · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:42

Caged said:
Saying what you think these people should be doing is not a solution to the current problem.

I was replying to previous post.

This is the problem what can we do? No one has come up with a decisive way of dealing with this. We can banter, shoot at them and argue all day but what can we do. :confused:

What would be a humane and considerate manner to deal with illegal immigration?

Brain cell comment was not directed at the forum but at the people we talking about. :rolleyes:

teaboy5 · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:46

robfosters said:
I'd say it's pretty much correct. If asylum detention centres are full, they have to go somewhere, and it's usually hotels. And it's well known that asylum seekers get £35 a week. And the hotels also give them three meals a day. For christ sakes, some of our own struggle to feed themselves 3 times a day. The whole thing is wrong. There will be civil unrest in this country sooner or later.

If the story is correct, that is unreal. Nothing to stop them just walking out into the country side and not coming back.

The whole issue is becoming a joke.

Caged · 1 Aug 2015 at 23:49

teaboy5 said:
If the story is correct, that is unreal. Nothing to stop them just walking out into the country side and not coming back.

The whole issue is becoming a joke.

The three meals a day, £35 a week and a roof over their heads probably does a good job of ensuring they keep checking in.