How many European Civil wars have we had while in the EU?
The argument isn't that sovereignty doesn't matter, but the way in which it is perceived and implemented needs to change because the world is no longer as segregated as it once was.
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How many European Civil wars have we had while in the EU?
The argument isn't that sovereignty doesn't matter, but the way in which it is perceived and implemented needs to change because the world is no longer as segregated as it once was.
If we sent MEPs who actually turned up maybe we'd get listened to more.
We actually had MEPs who drafted bills and then didn't turn up to vote for them
NATO.
"Not in my back yard" get said a lot. Those in the south east have a point as there isn't the space to build the roads needed to move the increase in population, if you forget about the lack of investment in expanding the road infrastructure. When are we going to get a outer ring road around London and another Dartford crossing to the east?
There is also a extreme lack of nurses and doctors to the number of people needing medical treatment, in addition to a lack of investment to support the increased population on the NHS over the past 5 years.
Firstly, we are not to any sensible meaning of the word "ruled" by Brussels. On every major area of policy - education, health, taxation, transport, benefits, foreign policy, military, etc. - the decisions made by Westminster are much, much more significant.
Secondly, it's simply untrue to say that the EU is primarily unelected: the main power in the EU is the Council which is composed of the national democratically elected governments; the commission has a president who was chosen by the largest group in the directly elected EU parliament and each other member is the chosen representative of the national, democratically elected, governments; and, finally, the EU parliament itself is directly, democratically, elected.
The USA is a federal organisation of states, which is a far more advanced version of the kind of union we see in the EU.
Freedom? Leaving the EU threatens to make every single British citizen less free as we stand to lose the enormous freedom to live and work anywhere in the EU. The EU also helps ensure our freedoms through other protections on things like worker rights, and further protections for our human rights. It is Remain that is a vote to protect our freedom.
As for sovereignty, Leave stands a high likelyhood that we will eventually re-enter the EEA/EFTA under Norwegian or Swiss style terms. This would mean that we would end up being bound by EU laws that we no longer have any say in making! Some gain of sovereignty that would be. Even if that does not happen, it will still be the case that we are part of a global world and, in particular, our fate and our economic future will be closely tied to that of the EU. Far better for our sovereignty to be at the table, making our case, than isolated at the edge of Europe without our voice even being heard on key negotiations.
A vote for Leave is a vote for a smaller British economy; a vote to reduce the pay of British workers; a vote to a diminish the funding for UK services; a vote to reduce the freedom of British citizens; a vote for a smaller, more inward looking Britain that has turned its back on it's nearest neighbours and closest allies; and a vote for Britain to have a smaller voice on the world stage.
In short, a vote for Leave is a vote for a smaller, weaker, less prosperous, less significant Britain. On what planet this is a patriotic act, I have no idea.
You're going to have to be a bit more elaborate I'm afraid, I'm not sure what you're getting at.
SWL making things very nice and simple, as usual.
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/defending-george-osborne-on-brexit-once.html
Absolutely hits the nail on the head.
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/defending-george-osborne-on-brexit-once.html
Absolutely hits the nail on the head.
I'm curious if any of those economic forecasts take into account any new trade deals we might do in the next 5-10 years after leaving the EU, I'm pretty sure they don't
What's PR got to do with the under-representation of UK citizens in the European Parliament?
This country was asked if it wanted to change voting systems - we said no (I said yes personally). Despite its imperfections, our system of government works, I'm not convinced Brussels does, or there wouldn't be this widespread dissatisfaction with it across Europe.
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No government has come close to building enough houses. The standard quote is that a town the size of Newcastle would have to be built each year, but that may be an underestimate as NI numbers issued are noticeably higher than migration estimates.
Furthermore how is it possible to plan anything when you have free movement of 500 million people and countries with massive economic differences?
And yet, it's looking like that's what a significant proportion of the country are going to do.
Circular reasoning, of course the states of America are within the boundaries of America. Although Hawaii lies outside the main land mass, as does Puerto Rico, with countries inbetween, and the largest state in the US (Alaska) is separate from the main body of the country.
You deny that we have a shared history with Europe? Really? Culture and Values aren't that different from mainland Europe either, you'd find as much variation between Cornwall and the Highlands of Scotland as anywhere in the UK and anywhere in mainland Europe.
Go and look at the history and formation of the US, the original states were sovereign and independent, Texas existed as independent and took a long time to join the Union. Would the USA join a grouping like that now? Why would it? It's the most powerful and wealthy nation in the world, we're not.
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Regarding what I said earlier about tin foil hat conspiracies, what if it really is about the so-called 'elite' losing their grip on power?
Especially the very controversial role the governor of the bank of England has had in having pro remain opinions for example.
It's interesting that Mark Carney, the governor of the bank of England, was appointed coincidentally just 6 months after his attendance at the 2012 Bilderberg conference - a conference that is primarily made up of the 'global elite', and that prior to being the Governor of the Bank of Canada, Carney spent 13 years working his way up through the ranks of the influential investment bank well known for it’s market manipulation – Goldman Sachs.
What this essentially means then, is that Goldman Sachs will have effective influence over the fiscal policy and financial future of the UK via Mark Carney, which adds to, and in fact completes the picture of considerable influence it already has over the rest of Europe because if you look at other notable figures in finance and government across the 'Eurozone' , they all unsurprisingly have considerable ties to Goldman Sachs.
For example, the new head of the European Central Bank, Mario Draghi, was Managing Director of Goldman Sachs International. Otmar Issing, who helped create the Euro was an 'advisor' to Goldman Sachs. Petros Christodoulou, head of Greece's Debt Management Agency, started his career with Goldman Sachs. Italy's current Prime Minister, Mario Monti, was an international 'advisor' to Goldman Sachs. Antonio Borges, head of the International Monetary Fund's 'european Division' was the former Vice Chairman of Goldman sachs and as you can probably imagine, the list goes on. But maybe it is just a coincidence?
Here is an interesting video with Jacob Rees-Mogg questioning Mark Carney about Brexit figures:
Vote Brexit!
Especially the very controversial role the governor of the bank of England has had in having pro remain opinions for example.
It's interesting that Mark Carney, the governor of the bank of England, was appointed coincidentally just 6 months after his attendance at the 2012 Bilderberg conference - a conference that is primarily made up of the 'global elite', and that prior to being the Governor of the Bank of Canada, Carney spent 13 years working his way up through the ranks of the influential investment bank well known for it’s market manipulation – Goldman Sachs.
What this essentially means then, is that Goldman Sachs will have effective influence over the fiscal policy and financial future of the UK via Mark Carney, which adds to, and in fact completes the picture of considerable influence it already has over the rest of Europe because if you look at other notable figures in finance and government across the 'Eurozone' , they all unsurprisingly have considerable ties to Goldman Sachs.
For example, the new head of the European Central Bank, Mario Draghi, was Managing Director of Goldman Sachs International. Otmar Issing, who helped create the Euro was an 'advisor' to Goldman Sachs. Petros Christodoulou, head of Greece's Debt Management Agency, started his career with Goldman Sachs. Italy's current Prime Minister, Mario Monti, was an international 'advisor' to Goldman Sachs. Antonio Borges, head of the International Monetary Fund's 'european Division' was the former Vice Chairman of Goldman sachs and as you can probably imagine, the list goes on. But maybe it is just a coincidence?
Here is an interesting video with Jacob Rees-Mogg questioning Mark Carney about Brexit figures:
Vote Brexit!
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Criminal - how can I remove these MEPs at the next European election? Oh wait that's right, I probably can't because no doubt they are at the top of their party's list of candidates.
Source for that standard quote?
There appears to be forecasts for how many migrants we can expect year on year all over the exit campaign so surely it's possible to estimate and plan accordingly?
They fought the war of independence because a bunch of rich white slave owning men didn't want to pay their taxes
seems much like todays brexit campaign a bunch of rich mainly white men who are more interested in themselves than anything else!Mainly because all 500 million won't come to the UK (despite what the Daily Mail/Express will tell you).
The best way to stop migration would be to the make the UK such a **** hole of a country with an economy in decline and a government of our of touch, self-serving, borderline nutjobs, that no one in their right mind would want to come here!
Or vote to leave, then they won't have a job at all!
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anyone see this?
Or we could just Leave the EU, make our country even greater and just have a bit of control over the numbers of people coming to live and work here. Pragmatism over hysteria for me every day of the week.
That's the idea
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