ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

RoboCod · 21 Jul 2016 at 12:45

[FnG]magnolia;29809383 said:
Anecdotal stories do not make universally accepted evidence.

Or any [meaningful] evidence, come to that.

There you go!

They do for good old RaohNS. A username change to 'anecdote' would be fitting. I think it's sad that people grow up to hold such angry and biased views of the world though... Even more sad when it seems that these misconceptions are based on PLAYGROUND experiences!

gettothechopper · 21 Jul 2016 at 12:46

Raoh - Well I just asked every Muslim on the planet and they all say you made it up ? Confused???

RaohNS · 21 Jul 2016 at 12:48

RoboCod said:
They do for good old RaohNS. A username change to 'anecdote' would be fitting. I think it's sad that people grow up to hold such angry and biased views of the world though... Even more sad when it seems that these misconceptions are based on PLAYGROUND experiences!

See the above post. For you cod, unless it fits into that tiny myopic view and perception it must be patently false. The username blinkered would be equally suited to you but you would disagree with that because again you don't, wont and cant see it

RaohNS · 21 Jul 2016 at 12:50

gettothechopper said:
Raoh - Well I just asked every Muslim on the planet and they all say you made it up ? Confused???

Well you better tell my local rag and the west midlands terrorism branch that they can reverse all charges and let the guy who is as far as I have been told (anecdotally of course :rolleyes:

) is still facing questioning that they are completely innocent.

Why not pardon bin Laden for any role he had in terrorist activities? Must be innocent or have had mental health issues

lafemmefatale · 21 Jul 2016 at 12:52

RaohNS said:
See the above post. For you cod, unless it fits into that tiny myopic view and perception it must be patently false. The username blinkered would be equally suited to you but you would disagree with that because again you don't, wont and cant see it

In defence of Robocod, for the work he's involved in, I think he's a very affable and relatively open-minded guy.

RoboCod · 21 Jul 2016 at 12:56

RaohNS said:
See the above post. For you cod, unless it fits into that tiny myopic view and perception it must be patently false. The username blinkered would be equally suited to you but you would disagree with that because again you don't, wont and cant see it

You've formed your life view based on the actions of a minority of school children. You've carried that view with you into adult hood and you spout about it constantly in one form or another on forums on the internet.

RaohNS · 21 Jul 2016 at 13:05

RoboCod said:
You've formed your life view based on the actions of a minority of school children. You've carried that view with you into adult hood and you spout about it constantly in one form or another on forums on the internet.

A minority from a pool of 100% of school aged kids who happened to be Asian. Several of who enter adult life and went on to be involved in terror related activity (one which I showed above in the link which you couldn't be bothered to click).

Thankfully I know with the drivel you spout that your interpretation of my world view is about as weighty as your empty and non-evidence based posts. They rely instead on you picking fault with others while offering little to nothing in the way of reasoning or consideration because again that small window you look through from Fritzels basement is clouded by the mud and mildew that makes you feel others beneath you.

scorza · 21 Jul 2016 at 13:30

Knife incident outside RAF Marham. BBC Breaking News say police are treating it as an abduction attempt. No mention of appearance or motive for the crime, but let's be honest; it's going to be the Islamic State.

RoboCod · 21 Jul 2016 at 14:15

scorza said:
Knife incident outside RAF Marham. BBC Breaking News say police are treating it as an abduction attempt. No mention of appearance or motive for the crime, but let's be honest; it's going to be the Islamic State.

Yeah, I was surprised they didn't do it with a little more conviction.... A la Lee Rigby.

"you, get in the car!"
"er, no"
"ok"... And drives off

RaohNS said:
A minority from a pool of 100% of school aged kids who happened to be Asian. Several of who enter adult life and went on to be involved in terror related activity (one which I showed above in the link which you couldn't be bothered to click).

Thankfully I know with the drivel you spout that your interpretation of my world view is about as weighty as your empty and non-evidence based posts. They rely instead on you picking fault with others while offering little to nothing in the way of reasoning or consideration because again that small window you look through from Fritzels basement is clouded by the mud and mildew that makes you feel others beneath you.

Nope, just you.

RaohNS · 21 Jul 2016 at 14:39

RoboCod said:
Nope, just you.

Its ok I understand you are still hurting from the Fritzel basement jibe which again proves the total lack of substance and reasoning in any of your posts that provoke neither thought nor feeling.

In fact looking back through your posts you don't actually provide anything other than a diatribe of trying to run a persons views down while offering zero in the way of counter.

A total inability to comprehend what is needed in a debate. Lol bravo

Robocarp said:
Attack other posters views because I am so myopic in my own non view

Time to come put of that basement or at least clean the windows.

Dis86 · 21 Jul 2016 at 14:44

"He was of Middle Eastern appearance".

Shock, horror. Who saw that coming?

RoboCod · 21 Jul 2016 at 14:57

RaohNS said:
Its ok I understand you are still hurting from the Fritzel basement jibe which again proves the total lack of substance and reasoning in any of your posts that provoke neither thought nor feeling.

In fact looking back through your posts you don't actually provide anything other than a diatribe of trying to run a persons views down while offering zero in the way of counter.

A total inability to comprehend what is needed in a debate. Lol bravo

Time to come put of that basement or at least clean the windows.

You misunderstand me. A refusal to engage in discussion with someone who has deep routed bias and bigotry based on the actions of school children is not the same as having an inability to comprehend debate. You have left school now, haven't you?

Dis86 · 21 Jul 2016 at 15:01

Robo, where do you think the children learned that behavior?

RaohNS · 21 Jul 2016 at 15:10

RoboCod said:
You misunderstand me. A refusal to engage in discussion with someone who has deep routed bias and bigotry based on the actions of school children is not the same as having an inability to comprehend debate. You have left school now, haven't you?

I don't have a deep rooted bias. Its called See Something Say Something.

Most of them grew up to be responsible. There is however a portion that you refuse to acknowledge that go on to act on their beliefs or interpretations.

Again. Other than attack other viewpoints with diatribe what exactly are your countering statements with?

You offer jack to this discussion/debate but think you are some epitome of moral policing and a font of knowledge.

At least when I am wrong I can have the grace to admit it. As fact changes so must opinion.

What counter have you offered in the thread other than attacking someone's opinions? None.

RoboCod · 21 Jul 2016 at 15:18

Dis86 said:
Robo, where do you think the children learned that behavior?

Point taken and that is obvious, but again, we're basing our outlook on the actions of children here. People grow up and develop their own thoughts and beliefs. My parents and grandparents were terribly racist. I'm not.

RaohNS · 21 Jul 2016 at 15:22

RoboCod said:
Point taken and that is obvious, but again, we're basing our outlook on the actions of children here. People grow up and develop their own thoughts and beliefs. My parents and grandparents were terribly racist. I'm not.

Robocods most substantive and informative post so far. Who knows maybe next one we will hear more depth and coherency rather than the Kung Fu Panda chitty chitty chat chat

RoboCod · 21 Jul 2016 at 15:30

Please, tell us more about the nasty boys in your class.

RaohNS · 21 Jul 2016 at 16:02

RoboCod said:
Please, tell us more about the nasty boys in your class.

Chitty chitty chat chat. After one post back to your old self. After one somewhat more substantive post you are back out of ideas, opinions and views so continue the diatribe.

Mayh3M · 21 Jul 2016 at 18:02

RaohNS said:
I'm sorry how would you know this exactly?

Because it wasn't long ago I left school and I now work in one. The school I went to had a sizeable Asian/Muslim intake. No one 'celebrated' Bin Laden. Not one. Many believed in conspiracy theories regarding the veracity of 9/11 but no one defended an action that resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocents.

So either your schools in the Midlands are a world apart from ones like mine in the South East, or your just flat out lying. I can only suspect the latter.

The problem is your lies are dangerous because they easily spread and misinform people who are already living in a climate of fear over terrorism and anger over mass migration. The jump from the proliferation and acceptance of your lies to measures that openly persecute minorities is not, in fact, a large one. I suggest you read the history of Nazi Germany, specifically the ways in which lies were spread about Jews and how the Nazis systematically used these to implement their domestic policies.

RaohNS · 21 Jul 2016 at 18:21

Mayh3M said:
Because it wasn't long ago I left school and I now work in one. The school I went to had a sizeable Asian/Muslim intake. No one 'celebrated' Bin Laden. Not one. Many believed in conspiracy theories regarding the veracity of 9/11 but no one defended an action that resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocents.

Well you choose to believe what you want. I know the truth. I have given some evidence that logically points to a strong likelihood of it. Unfortunately I cannot find the terrorism incitement articles as they must have been pre web archives of the page as its not there.

either your schools in the Midlands are a world apart from ones like mine in the South East, or your just flat out lying. I can only suspect the latter.

Because every Asian/Muslim acts and thinks the same hence why we have zero terrorism in the world.

problem is your lies are dangerous because they easily spread and misinform people who are already living in a climate of fear over terrorism and anger over mass migration. The jump from the proliferation and acceptance of your lies to measures that openly persecute minorities is not, in fact, a large one. I suggest you read the history of Nazi Germany, specifically the ways in which lies were spread about Jews and how the Nazis systematically used these to implement their domestic policies.

They are not lies. I'm not talking about Nazi Germany or Goebbels proffering. I am telling you hand on heart that every lad in the school had a pic on bin laden in their year book.

I class ignoring the truth as one of the biggest dangers we as a race can do. Truth is the first victim of war remember.