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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***
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So a blast from the past, who remembers these:
AMD had something like ten world wide, I got one and I still have it on my desk some ten years later.
Was there last truly great processor!
Amazed they let you keep it!
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She said 2H on her roadmap thingy
Mins are bad, hopefully that is just an anomoly in that specific game, cause no amount of overclocking is going to catch that up.
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Not entirely surprised by those GTA V results, especially against a 5GHz 7700K. We know Kabylake is slightly stronger clock for clock, and then its running substantially higher clocks as well.
Will be interesting when we start to get the tweaked, OC'd results, firmware and BIOS updates and a wider range of games.
Will be interesting when we start to get the tweaked, OC'd results, firmware and BIOS updates and a wider range of games.
Every e-tailer I've seen has exactly the same prices so I wouldn't expect them to budge.
That wasn't what the hype was leading us to believe...
Min is a worry. It was the noticeable minimums on GTAV which made me replace my 8320.So this is taken from DinoPC. 1700 vs 7700k (stock and Overclocked).
They tested GTAV.
Average is pretty similar across the board. They didn't get a chance to overclock the 1700 though.
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Too be honest it made me consider the i7 7700k over this processor....
Mins are bad, hopefully that is just an anomoly in that specific game, cause no amount of overclocking is going to catch that up.
Will wait for the world to know well and truely what this processor is like i mean the price of the 7700k has gone down as for me gaming processor has to be intel over that benchmark.
Will have to see.
Kinda what I'd expect - almost no difference in average frame rates when GPU limited but the higher clocked i7-7700K would get better minimums and maximums. The only oddity for me is that I thought GTA V in particular loved extra cores, yet it doesn't seem as if the R7 1700's extra cores are helping much here.So this is taken from DinoPC. 1700 vs 7700k (stock and Overclocked).
They tested GTAV.
Average is pretty similar across the board. They didn't get a chance to overclock the 1700 though.
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Kinda what I was expecting, it's marginally faster than Broadwell generally (varying from type of calculation etc), but a little behind Skylake and Kabylake. Then consider the 1700 will be running somewhere between 3 and 3.7 GHz, likely around 3.5. The Kabylake is running anywhere from 1GHz to 1.5GHz faster between those two 7700K results
Other games and overclocked/higher clocked Zen may show slightly different story!
By the time you've added a cooler as I don't think 7700k comes with one, then the 7700K is more expensive by say £20-30, and will be beaten in other areas.
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It's 2ghz down compared to the 7700k
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I have the feeling all this hype isn't worth it.
But in the end competition is better now rather then bulldozer.
But in the end competition is better now rather then bulldozer.
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I'm not alarmed either, I knew GTA V benchmarks would be the first ones to hurt because more cores are irrelevant for it, maybe with OC it can match a 6700K... but then Intel will probably make it cheaper than the 1700, competition is always a profit for us.
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For reference, if you work out the performance PER MHZ, it's pretty close with the Kabylake having a slight lead in this title, you're seeing here the deficit of the clock speeds!
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GTAV seems to not scale that well with cores anyway:
http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/991/bench/CPU_01.png
http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2015/game-bench/gta-v-cpu-1080-max.jpg
LOL,I would love to see that R7 1700 overclocked too. Its a 65W TDP 3.0GHZ to 3.7GHZ against a 91W TDP Core i7 7700K.
Look at how bad an FX8370 is doing in that title.
It seems to prefer 4 strong cores,meaning even at a lower clockspeed Ryzen is doing much better than it should.
Agreed.
http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/991/bench/CPU_01.png
http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2015/game-bench/gta-v-cpu-1080-max.jpg
LOL,I would love to see that R7 1700 overclocked too. Its a 65W TDP 3.0GHZ to 3.7GHZ against a 91W TDP Core i7 7700K.
Look at how bad an FX8370 is doing in that title.
It seems to prefer 4 strong cores,meaning even at a lower clockspeed Ryzen is doing much better than it should.
AMD have had to keep things very hush on Zen, Intel are a giant and can make a come back, but a giant needs time and AMD have done such a good job at keeping this under wraps that any retaliation from Intel will take time and like AMD say, its just the start, I sure for one welcome the good old days back where AMD were around 50% processor market share and more in the gaming arena.
Agreed.
He said a 240mm AIO was used for the 4ghz clock. Now I'm sure the Wraith is meant to be good, but I doubt it matches a 240mm AIO.
I am looking for a motherboard too, but I really couldn't justify £250 for the Crosshair. Suggestions around the £120-150 mark would be fine though (lower the better). If I could have justified the Crosshair, I'd probably have been ably to justify the 1800x too, lol.