Who here owns a Fiesta ST?

chaparral · 24 Feb 2017 at 21:10

Nasher said:
What's next, a 2 stroke?

I remember when my parents use to have a 2 stroke car....(Skoda)

Janesy B · 24 Feb 2017 at 22:19

Ford can get a reliable 200bhp out of the 1l engine, so don't write off the 1.5.

Jono8 · 24 Feb 2017 at 22:26

chaparral said:
WOW this new fiesta ST looks so much better then the mk7 ST in them pictures

Ay?

It looks largely similar except they gave it the back of a B-max. Side profile is very similar as well.

I like the front (as it is quite similar to the current shape) and I like the light ring around the lights. The interior looks like a step up as well (except I hate touch screens like that when they look like they have just been awkwardly stuck on the dash). However the rear is quite a step back in design in my opinion - horrible.

Shame it isn't anymore powerful than the current model as well

. I reckon the next rival cars like the Clio RS and 208 GTI will be pushing ~225bhp or more

There could be one reason for keeping the power down to the same as the previous model...maybe for the NK8 they really are planning a Fiesta RS..

dbmzk1 · 24 Feb 2017 at 23:59

I was about to order a leased ST until I found out about this a few days ago... Well it's as expected really, it looks similar outside but is much better inside than the old one.

Not sure about the 1.5l 3 pot though...

Richie · 25 Feb 2017 at 07:14

Dav4 said:
I also feel that Ford have really dropped the ball with the new Fiesta doing away with the popular cheap trim options "studio and Edge" and having the Zetec as the cheapest option which raises the price up and will have buyers flocking to the cheaper Corsa imo.
And a Fiesta Vignale! Who the hell is going to buy that!

The new model Fiesta also has a Style model as the entry level...

stuman · 25 Feb 2017 at 09:58

Does anybody remember how much the current st was at release?

dbmzk1 · 25 Feb 2017 at 10:41

stuman said:
Does anybody remember how much the current st was at release?

Same as it is now, more or less. It's not been out long!

stuman · 25 Feb 2017 at 11:26

So this new one is £5k more than current?!

EdGey · 25 Feb 2017 at 11:36

18k seems about right to me.

Not sure about the 1.5L 3 pot myself but there's no denying that from the factory, it's both faster and more efficient than the old engine.

I quite like it overall.

Logsi · 25 Feb 2017 at 11:50

Will definitely have a go in one when it's released. Will also probably look better in person!

I'm not a huge fan of the way a 3 cylinder sounds so that will be a big deciding factor for me, even with that valve in the exhaust.

Jono8 · 25 Feb 2017 at 12:26

dbmzk1 said:
Same as it is now, more or less. It's not been out long!

I believe it was just under 17k when released and now it is just under 18k (for the starting ST 1 model).

I would be surprised if the starting price for this new one is under 18k.

edit - ford website says ST1 is £18,145 now

stuman · 25 Feb 2017 at 12:34

Ahh ok, so a similar price then?

Some of the deals out there must be pretty good then, I've seen 14,000 ish for a new one?

Jono8 · 25 Feb 2017 at 13:01

stuman said:
Ahh ok, so a similar price then?

Some of the deals out there must be pretty good then, I've seen 14,000 ish for a new one?

Yes you have always been able to get good deals on these through brokers/dealer price matching brokers (ie ~14k for ST1 ~15k for St 2 and ~ 16k for ST 3)

stuman · 25 Feb 2017 at 14:17

So expect a keen PCP deal at around 250/m over 3 years?

ajf · 26 Feb 2017 at 01:08

I've been looking at used ST2 and ST3 variants, and one thing I noticed there seems to be quite a few around 18 months old.
They are typically lowish mileage (circa 10k) and private owner.
Just wondering why there are so many?
Were there special short lease deals at some point that these cars are from?

I must admit I am always slightly wary of private owner cars that are only 12-18 months old.

Jono8 · 26 Feb 2017 at 08:43

ajf said:
I've been looking at used ST2 and ST3 variants, and one thing I noticed there seems to be quite a few around 18 months old.
They are typically lowish mileage (circa 10k) and private owner.
Just wondering why there are so many?
Were there special short lease deals at some point that these cars are from?

I must admit I am always slightly wary of private owner cars that are only 12-18 months old.

Yes there have been a lot of short lease deals on these I believe.

stuman · 26 Feb 2017 at 13:07

It's also a bit of a feeder car in such, start with fiesta st, order rs when released, delivery 12 months later...

chaparral · 26 Feb 2017 at 13:18

stuman said:
So this new one is £5k more than current?!

I priced up an st3 last august and it was over 20k

I Can't see people paying over 25k for a fiesta ST-3 if the new one does cost 5k more

Jono8 · 26 Feb 2017 at 14:50

I'm guessing the very top spec one with all the toys/spec/gizmos etc might be pushing 22/23k this time around (if Ford are introducing a lot of available options and tech to the new Fiesta).

I doubt the lowest spec version will start from much more than 18k otherwise it is pushing into the territory of cars a class upwards.

chaparral · 26 Feb 2017 at 15:31

Jono8 said:
I'm guessing the very top spec one with all the toys/spec/gizmos etc might be pushing 22/23k this time around (if Ford are introducing a lot of available options and tech to the new Fiesta).

£20,145 is for a base spec mk7 fiesta ST-3

Base Price
£20,745
Total added features
£1,870
Retail Price
£22,615
Total Price
£22,615

Spec up is already £22,615

And the ST200 starts at £23,145 in base spec