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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

eyetrip said:
I can get 32gb lpx running at 2666 fine... Guess they all struggling a bit.

But I can't even get the 64gb (all installed) running at 2133, so will probably just have to return it.
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Ah my bad I just realised I misread, you have the asus pro and I have the msi carbon pro... might be a little different. When my wc stuff arrives I can finally start poking around on it for real
 
My first motherboard was a Jetway K7, got it with Athlon Thunderbird 800Mhz. Wasn't very stable so quickly got rid of it and got a Gigabyte KT133 board afterwards.
 
steve258 said:
My first motherboard was a Jetway K7, got it with Athlon Thunderbird 800Mhz. Wasn't very stable so quickly got rid of it and got a Gigabyte KT133 board afterwards.
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Great times :) If my memory serve me correct i had the same board and thunder board 800mhz did the pencil trick and got it too 1ghz
 
Abit KT133A and the VP6. Dual celerons at 1100Mhz on NT with waterblocks I turned up by hand on my uncles lathe. Golden times for true PC enthusiasts. Now we've got master race fanboys, the Nvidia focus group and delided 7700K's that offer 4% performance gains... Sad times.
 
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jigger said:
Abit KT133A and the VP6. Dual celerons at 1100Mhz on NT with waterblocks I turned up by hand on my uncles lather. Golden times for true PC enthusiasts. Now we've got master race fanboys, the Nvidia focus group and delided 7700K's that offer 4% performance gains... Sad times.
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Agree ....man them dual boards where great with the Celerons ...
 
Yeah the dual celeron setup with a VP6 kicked arse and I was lucky enough to get a pair of Malay Pentiums. Smashed world records for fun with both those rigs.
 
cereal3 said:
I have the x370 carbon and 16gb corsair lpx 3200mhz having problems getting stable at even 2400mhz, will boot sucessfully sometimes, 2133 is fine tho, haven't tried cpu clocking yet as my cooler is in the post, but perhaps when I do that the memory will be a bit easier. the A-xmp does recognise the 3200mhz profile though so hopefully support improves
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I have the same board and memory, did you try the new 1.2 Bios? I can run at 2933 without any problems at all. I tried A-XMP and it ran fine at 3200 for a couple of reboots but then it just stopped. It might be the voltage that is the problem, somebody wrote that when you use the A-XMP is sets the voltage at 1.36 and that if you set it manually back to 135 it will work properly. I haven't tested this yet.
 
harney said:
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I agree with him. Which is why I went and bought a Ryzen 7 cpu. I noticed that the recommended cpu specs for recent AAA games where advising i7's and AMD 8 core parts (FX)... which are quite apart in performance but I deduced from this that what their saying is 8 cores is the most important part.

This is also why I recently said that 1070 is actually now a 1080/1200p card.

Don't question me on this until you've watched the video.
 
I agree that testing using a really low resolution and the lowest image quality settings is a poor way to test CPU performance. Why would you test a resolution and image quality setting that you would never dream of using when gaming?
 
The new recommended minimums for a gamer are thus:

8 cores are the new 4, 16Gb of ram is the new 8Gb and 8Gb of vram is the new 4Gb.

The point is that building a PC that meets these specs isn't actually that expensive. It just so happens that this is exactly AMD's approach to the current PC market.

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Of course a PC with lower specs will still work, but you know what I mean when I say 'gamer specs'. In this day and age, if someone says for gaming should I buy 16Gb or 8Gb of ram the common consensus is now 16Gb.

Community wisdom you can call it.

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Over at Guru3D as well you can see in their gaming benchmarks that even at 1080/1200p some games go over 4Gb of Vram. Which is what why have cards like the 1060 with 6Gb and a 480 with 8Gb.
 
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AMDMatt said:
I agree that testing using a really low resolution and the lowest image quality settings is a poor way to test CPU performance. Why would you test a resolution and image quality setting that you would never dream of using when gaming?
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All they are trying to do is see how much grunt the CPU has when you take the GPU out of the picture as much as possible. That was the assumption anyway. Clearly, AMD's chips have bucked the trend.

What this shows me is again.... AMD is always pushing tech too early. Although... they certainly do give themselves longevity by increasing performance over time.
 
Scougar said:
All they are trying to do is see how much grunt the CPU has when you take the GPU out of the picture as much as possible. That was the assumption anyway. Clearly, AMD's chips have bucked the trend.

What this shows me is again.... AMD is always pushing tech too early. Although... they certainly do give themselves longevity by increasing performance over time.
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And that has zero use, because no one pairs a high end GPU with a high end CPU to game at 1024x768 or 1280x720P.
 
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