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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

All they are trying to do is see how much grunt the CPU has when you take the GPU out of the picture as much as possible. That was the assumption anyway. Clearly, AMD's chips have bucked the trend.
This would be fine except they use those situations to form conclusions about gaming which is not correct.
 
Quite a boost from just a game update.
Ashes of the Singularity Gets Ryzen Performance Update | PC Perspective
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ashes-Singularity-Gets-Ryzen-Performance-Update

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Nice. So looks like AMD's claim there are Intel-specific optimisations in most current games, and that with optimisation Ryzen will improve, is true.

Well we already knew that in a lot of scenarios Ryzen nears or beats Intel's IPC so the whole gaming situation was always a bit dodgy. Scheduler improvements, RAM speed sensitivity, and game optimisations were always going to be key factors. Looking at the huge gains made by just patching that game, hopefully going forward we'll see games properly optimised for both Intel and AMD so performance is on par with where it should be.
 
20-30% that sounds just about where performance should be, AMD need to roll out patchs on most broken games used to bench, now that ashes of the singularity is done , what's left is Rise of the tomb raider, farcry primal, and hitman.
other games are kind of OK, when you come to think of it, it's basicaly only these 4 games that gave Ryzen the reputation of a non gamers CPU.
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20-30% that sounds just about where performance should be, AMD need to roll out patchs on most broken games used to bench, now that ashes of the singularity is done , what's left is Rise of the tomb raider, farcry primal, and hitman.
other games are kind of OK, when you come to think of it, it's basicaly only these 4 games that gave Ryzen the reputation of a non gamers CPU.
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Keeping the 6900K, nice.
But what about 720P on low details with 1080ti's in SLi?
 
Keeping the 6900K, nice.
But what about 720P on low details with 1080ti's in SLi?

Add the Unreal Tournament benchmark please.

We should also add in some 480p Quake 3 tests for the competitive gamers. :)
It's the only way to know if RyZen is going to bottleneck the Ti's when gaming in 4K in the future after all.
I mean if RyZen sucks in 480p, it surely means that with a powerful gpu it's going to bottleneck in the future, right. ;)

https://youtu.be/L34ZkAF9q9w?t=5m15s

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Quite a boost from just a game update.
Ashes of the Singularity Gets Ryzen Performance Update | PC Perspective
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ashes-Singularity-Gets-Ryzen-Performance-Update
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I was just reading about this elsewhere.

Nice. So looks like AMD's claim there are Intel-specific optimisations in most current games, and that with optimisation Ryzen will improve, is true.

It's only one game but let's hope it's at least the case with the games where Intel has a substantial lead.
 
My gear tho is that the CPU landscape is going to mimic how game Devs code for Nvidia or AMD GPUs.

We'll end up in a situation where a Dev has to optimize for Intel or Ryzen.
I doubt it'll be as difficult as the GPU situation though, if a single game was patched for a brand new architecture within weeks.
 
Add the Unreal Tournament benchmark please.

We should also add in some 480p Quake 3 tests for the competitive gamers. :)
It's the only way to know if RyZen is going to bottleneck the Ti's when gaming in 4K in the future after all.
I mean if RyZen sucks in 480p, it surely means that with a powerful gpu it's going to bottleneck in the future, right. ;)

https://youtu.be/L34ZkAF9q9w?t=5m15s

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So lose 10 fps on avg but gain a 50% on the minimum for 1080ti.
 
So if they brought such nice performance increases on AOTS, a game arguably nobody ever plays, it bodes well for AMD and the Bethesda partnership where they stated specifically they were working together to optomise the Bethesda games for Ryzen... Will be interesting to see what they can achieve.

Another consideration is the cpu makeup of Ryzen is similar to consoles is it not? and if Scorpio has a zen based core in it, with the infinity fabric and whatnot, that will also bode well going forward for console ports, as they are very well optomised generally for the console hardware to squeeze as much out of the box as possible.
 
And at the end of the day as long as maximums are good enough the minimums are more important to the over all experience.

I just wonder how has Ryzen affected Intel's plans. It's not like they can change anything which has been in the pipeline for years within a few months.
 
So if they brought such nice performance increases on AOTS, a game arguably nobody ever plays, it bodes well for AMD and the Bethesda partnership where they stated specifically they were working together to optomise the Bethesda games for Ryzen... Will be interesting to see what they can achieve.

Another consideration is the cpu makeup of Ryzen is similar to consoles is it not? and if Scorpio has a zen based core in it, with the infinity fabric and whatnot, that will also bode well going forward for console ports, as they are very well optomised generally for the console hardware to squeeze as much out of the box as possible.

Agree ....I think this has been AMD's master plan for years getting in the consoles is part of it ..this is some thing neither Intel nor Nvidia are..AMD to me seem to be the strongest moving forward for the future ...Not just being in the consoles but has a company having both cpu & gpu divisions under one roof ...

So one would hope for future games it should be an easier task for the game developers if the hardware is similar in the consoles & pc's using AMD
 
Anyone know if the 1600X is going to ship with a cooler?

The R7 X models didnt and the 1700 Non X did, are we to assume the same with the R5's? And where is the Wraith Max cooler? Only the Spire has shown up so far the Max is AWOL
 
Agree ....I think this has been AMD's master plan for years getting in the consoles is part of it ..this is some thing neither Intel nor Nvidia are..AMD to me seem to be the strongest moving forward for the future ...Not just being in the consoles but has a company having both cpu & gpu divisions under one roof ...

So one would hope for future games it should be an easier task for the game developers if the hardware is similar in the consoles & pc's using AMD

Yeah and with Xbox One running DX12 and a version of Win10, i can imagine Scorpio being similar, so the software side of things is already there pretty much, if the hardware is a fairly similar translation, it will save devs time porting, and aid with optomising.
 
Add the Unreal Tournament benchmark please.

We should also add in some 480p Quake 3 tests for the competitive gamers. :)
It's the only way to know if RyZen is going to bottleneck the Ti's when gaming in 4K in the future after all.
I mean if RyZen sucks in 480p, it surely means that with a powerful gpu it's going to bottleneck in the future, right. ;)

https://youtu.be/L34ZkAF9q9w?t=5m15s

HTJxscu.jpg

You know Linustech run this with benchmark with Ryzen ram at 2133, more than three weeks ago?
 
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