Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

saying and doing are very different things indeed.

Which is exactly the criticism of U-turn May

 

[Schlong&Stable]

If he's working class, then he would care about human rights.

Support for the death penalty is strongest amongst the working class. What parallel world did you come from where the working class care about human rights?

 

[Avenged7Fold]

I left a carved wooden penis on my wife's pillow this morning when I left the house to vote.

Its nice to see there are other romantics out there as well as people who pursue the finer arts and not just dabble at the secondary school level with text books but go onto carving and woodworking.

 

[robfosters]

That actually counts as a valid UKIP vote.

#politicalbantz

 

[LOAM]

Abbott has a 24k majority. That's depressing.

Despite being useless she must be doing something right at local level.

 

[Nitefly]

Huuuuuurghnnnnnnn probably going to vote lib dem. It seems like a wasted vote but if everyone felt like that all the time they'd NEVER get in.

In a potential swing seat (Bristol South) so the fear is my vote swaying a Tory majority... the final seat they needed for a majority... directly my fault the Torys get in

 

[wildman]

Support for the death penalty is strongest amongst the working class. What parallel world did you come from where the working class care about human rights?

they don't, but they should as it serves to protect them more than the rich Toffs that fornicate dead goats heads

 

[Schlong&Stable]

they don't, but they should as it serves to protect them more than the rich Toffs that fornicate dead goats heads

So you know what is best for them? I smell a champagne socialist. You come from Islington by any chance?

Location: Idiotic Britain

Seems like.

 

[FortuitousFluke]

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Huuuuuurghnnnnnnn probably going to vote lib dem. It seems like a wasted vote but if everyone felt like that all the time they'd NEVER get in.

In a potential swing seat (Bristol South) so the fear is my vote swaying a Tory majority... the final seat they needed for a majority... directly my fault the Torys get in

100's of news vans outside your house the next day. The press going through your rubbish, the sordid details of your dalliances with Diane Abbott and your opposition to nuclear weapons all over the front page of the Sun. One college friend revealing details of that thing you did to that pig during a University hazing initiation. Pictures, leaked by your neighbours of you returning home after you and your husbands appearance on the one show, pictures that appear to show you removing a rubber human mask to reveal the scaly face of a humanoid reptile.....hang on.

 

[Robbo]

I might just draw a willy on my paper and be done with it. At least give the counters a chuckle.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

So you know what is best for them? I smell a champagne socialist. You come from Islington by any chance?



Seems like.

I dont think you get what comes under human rights, ie the UK act

What rights does the Human Rights Act protect?

• The right to life: protects your life, by law. The State is required to investigate suspicious deaths and deaths in custody.
• The prohibition of torture and inhuman treatment: you should never be tortured or treated in an inhuman or degrading way, no matter what the situation.
• Protection against slavery and forced labour: you should not be treated like a slave or subjected to forced labour.
• The right to liberty and freedom: you have the right to be free and the State can only imprison you with very good reason – for example, if you are convicted of a crime.
• The right to a fair trial and no punishment without law: you are innocent until proven guilty. If accused of a crime, you have the right to hear the evidence against you in a court of law.
• Respect for privacy and family life and the right to marry: protects against unnecessary surveillance or intrusion into your life. You have the right to marry and enjoy family relationships.
• Freedom of thought, religion and belief: you can believe what you like and practise your religion or beliefs.
• Free speech and peaceful protest: you have a right to speak freely and join with others peacefully, to express your views.
• No discrimination: everyone’s rights are equal. You should not be treated unfairly – because, for example, of your gender, race, sexuality, religion or age.
• Protection of property: protects against state interference with your possessions.
• The right to an education: means that no child can be denied an education.
• The right to free elections: elections must be free and fair.

So if your all for scrapping them, you would have no issue if for example the local council decided to take your house, as the rights confer to you protection of your property from state interference...

 

[CREATIVE!11]

Huuuuuurghnnnnnnn probably going to vote lib dem. It seems like a wasted vote but if everyone felt like that all the time they'd NEVER get in.

In a potential swing seat (Bristol South) so the fear is my vote swaying a Tory majority... the final seat they needed for a majority... directly my fault the Torys get in

All I have to say is... please think of the porn when you cast your vote.

 

[Greebo]

Your friend is right - the Daily Mail aren't wrong on those claims. Amazing how many people either don't want to know or don't want to care about that.

So Corbyn is a terrorist now? Is he on the watch list? Is he one of the 3000? You really do spout total drivel.

 

[JohnnyG]

Despite being useless she must be doing something right at local level.

Scorza would get elected for Labour if he stood in Hackney.

 

[Nasher]

Yea, Hackney. Says it all lol

I wonder how well she would do in other districts.

 

[diamount]

Support for the death penalty is strongest amongst the working class. What parallel world did you come from where the working class care about human rights?

That is at the extreme end of human rights, I'm talking basic things like weekends, holiday pay, if you're born with a silver spoon in your mouth that is something the upper classes forget when they decide to rip up legislation that they wouldn't even experience in their lives.

 

[wildman]

So you know what is best for them? I smell a champagne socialist. You come from Islington by any chance?



Seems like.

Unless your name is stalin, hitler or pol pot how can you not think Human rights are good for you or at least have a basic understanding that they are there for your protection. Lets go back to the Victorian days when there were none and examine what used to happen.

Working class children dying in textile mills as they were sent to remove broken threads as they were small enough to get into the machine
people working for literally nothing
serfdom
forced labour

are but a few of the nicer things.

what i am bears no consequence to the fact that those rights serve to protect people from being exploited and history shows us that no group has been more exploited than the working class. That you have to resort to an ad hominen attack on me proves you have no grounding for your argument or points.

 

[D.P.]

So according to this thread:

Voting for May is a disaster.

Voting for Corbyn is a disaster.

I think both parties are pretty awful at the moment, but on balance I think letting Corbyn have the reins will create more uncertainty and turmoil, not less. He's saying all the rights things, but saying and doing are very different things indeed.

Corbyn need to become PM in order to prove that he can do what he says. May has been TM and proven to everyone with the intelligence above a 5 year old that she says one thing but repeatedly fails to actually achieve it. May is a flip-flopping unstable disaster whose seemingly only goal is to make the top 1% richer and everyone else to pay for it.


If Labour win there may be some short term instability, but this is entirely flip-flopping May's fault. She says she wont call an election, then calls an election because she blindly assume she will win a massive majority and then fails to live up to that hype. Sterling and FTSE immediately after calling the election if will both likely drop a little if labour win because it is expected that the Tories win. However, in due course Labour will lead the UK through a much safer BREXIT process with much greater chances of getting a less bad deal for the UK

 

[doodah]

Some news coming through about Trafalgar Square being locked down.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

That is at the extreme end of human rights, I'm talking basic things like weekends, holiday pay, if you're born with a silver spoon if your mouth that is something the upper classes forget when they decide to rip up legislation that they wouldn't even experience in their lives.

Those aren't human rights...