Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

[LabR@t]

Yep, desperation spending 10 seconds checking, to be fair though everyone knew you were a tory voter, just another who's in the closet about it.

Ukip to be honest.

 

[scorza]

I might just draw a willy on my paper and be done with it. At least give the counters a chuckle.

This might be an urban myth, but when I once helped out at a local election count the returning officer told a story whereby one angry voter did indeed draw a willy in the box beside the candidate he didn't like. The counter classed this as a spoiled ballot so didn't count it. At the end of the count each spoiled ballot is examined by the returning officer and the candidate's agents - when they got to the ballot paper in question, the candidate's agent argued that it should be counted as a legit vote because it was a clear mark against his candidate's name, other other candidate's obviously disagreed. Eventually the returning officer ruled that it was indeed a legit vote (though it made no difference to the overall result).

 

[Vanquish-Storm]

28k majority in my constituency so it doesn't really matter who I vote for

What is the population of your constituency?

 

[mid_gen]

Despite being useless she must be doing something right at local level.

I don't know much about her....but it's possible she's a very competent and likeable MP. She's just not a front-bencher and definitely not a cabinet minister. There's no shame in that, the shame is that she's been put in a situation that has exposed her, sickness or otherwise.

 

[ChroniC]

I must admit, I'm amazed how lax our polling system is. I could go and cast another vote now if I felt like it.

How so? With someone elses polling card, or someone elses ID? The names on the list get crossed off, so you would have to have stolen something. It's not water tight but its fairly good.

 

[chief barker]

Some news coming through about Trafalgar Square being locked down.

They've found Abbott?

 

[Ayahuasca]

Ukip to be honest.

I couldn't care who you're voting for tbh, just found it rather amusing you were trying to pretend you hadn't made it apparent what your intentions were.

 

[antijoke]

Some news coming through about Trafalgar Square being locked down.

That a Tory marginal seat? Probably locking it down to stop voters coming in as they have the numbers they need to win.

 

[Skidder]

Where is the news about trafalgar square?

 

[CREATIVE!11]

They've found Abbott?

No, the porn.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

How so? With someone elses polling card, or someone elses ID? The names on the list get crossed off, so you would have to have stolen something. It's not water tight but its fairly good.

My area ask for just two things. Name and address

If you know a few people who wont vote and where they live, that is what it takes. That said, the number of reported frauds at the station is very low. So low that introducing any sort of picture ID system would marginalise many times more people than the total number of known fraud reports.

The card makes things go a bit quicker but most people here don't bring it with them, including myself as i do it non the way home from work and usually leave the card at home

 

[EddScott]

However, in due course Labour will lead the UK through a much safer BREXIT process with much greater chances of getting a less bad deal for the UK

We'll end up with whatever the EU offer us. It really won't matter which party gets elected. Soft suits government and more importantly business so that is highly likely what we'll get whether it's Labour or Tory.

 

[scorza]

Where is the news about trafalgar square?

Check twitter - seems like a suspicious package has been found.

 

[Six6siX]

You don't need "human rights" to have equality though. The fundamental principle behind human rights is that we all have inalienable rights, this is a concept I reject.

Unfortunately, we live in a pretty unequal society where prejudice exists for a number of reasons and manifests in a number of different forms and affects nearly everyone. We therefore require things such as the HRA to ensure that intentionally or not, people cannot be treated unequally or unfairly when it comes to basic rights and freedoms.

The HRA doesn't inherently give or take away rights, it ensures that it is possible to legally enforce them.

 

[b0redj0rd]

My area ask for just two things. Name and address

If you know a few people who wont vote and where they live that is what it takes. That said, the number of reported frauds at the station is very low. So low that introducing any sort of picture ID system would marginalise many times more people than the total number of known fraud reports

Same here, name & address. Usually I'll bring along the polling card too but it isn't a requirement. They'll cross you off a list and that's it ..

 

[Ayahuasca]

Check twitter - seems like a suspicious package has been found.

Looks like a non-incident, been stood down already and cordons soon to be lifted.

 

[D.P.]

I dont think you get what comes under human rights, ie the UK act

What rights does the Human Rights Act protect?

• The right to life: protects your life, by law. The State is required to investigate suspicious deaths and deaths in custody.
• The prohibition of torture and inhuman treatment: you should never be tortured or treated in an inhuman or degrading way, no matter what the situation.
• Protection against slavery and forced labour: you should not be treated like a slave or subjected to forced labour.
• The right to liberty and freedom: you have the right to be free and the State can only imprison you with very good reason – for example, if you are convicted of a crime.
• The right to a fair trial and no punishment without law: you are innocent until proven guilty. If accused of a crime, you have the right to hear the evidence against you in a court of law.
• Respect for privacy and family life and the right to marry: protects against unnecessary surveillance or intrusion into your life. You have the right to marry and enjoy family relationships.
• Freedom of thought, religion and belief: you can believe what you like and practise your religion or beliefs.
• Free speech and peaceful protest: you have a right to speak freely and join with others peacefully, to express your views.
• No discrimination: everyone’s rights are equal. You should not be treated unfairly – because, for example, of your gender, race, sexuality, religion or age.
• Protection of property: protects against state interference with your possessions.
• The right to an education: means that no child can be denied an education.
• The right to free elections: elections must be free and fair.

So if your all for scrapping them, you would have no issue if for example the local council decided to take your house, as the rights confer to you protection of your property from state interference...

You are way over estimating Thompson_NCL, who would love for the UK to turn in to WW2 Germany.

He liekly doesn't believe in the rights to life and would happily have certain people killed and supports capital punishment.
He liekly thinks it is fine to torture suspects, irrespective of the fact that is is provably useless.
He liekly thinks that getting prisoners to o forced labour is perfectly acceptable, and moreover that labour wouldn't have to be paid, i.e. prisoners can be slaves.
He only supports liberty and free speech for the far right
He liekly thinks innocent people can be deported pr sent to camps without trial, simply because they are on a government watch list.
He liekly doesn't believe in the right to marriage, unless you are heterosexual
He liekly doesn't think there should be freedom of religion and wants Islam outlawed
He liekly thinks liberal activists should not have the right to protest
He almost certainly thinks that you should be able to discriminate against Muslims, immigrants, blacks, jews, gays, and women.

 

[Kelt]

Just hoping Abbot and Costello don't get in tomorrow.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Check twitter - seems like a suspicious package has been found.

Is that Abbot? or probably more likely farage

 

[D.P.]

We'll end up with whatever the EU offer us. It really won't matter which party gets elected. Soft suits government and more importantly business so that is highly likely what we'll get whether it's Labour or Tory.

What ever happens the UK will get a bad deal, its merely a question of how bad and how good we can keep relations with our European neighbors. The EU holds all the negotiating power. However, Corbyn has a much better chance of slightly improving the deal and not turning things sour. May will be an absolute disaster, even given the fact she wont tractably be negotiating herself, but will be making the process much harder for our negotiations and will be straining foreign relations. Playing hardball never, ever works in negotiating, you set up the opposition to be extremely aggressive and less likely to compromise. We need the EU to compromise as much as possible so things turn out quite as terrible for the UK.