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[TW]Fox said:
Perhaps the tank wasn't empty to start with?
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Perhaps. But £40 is too round a number really to be brimming the tank from not empty. And a fair enough point that it could have been rented.

Maybe it's just me then, that just brims the tank every time regardless.

Jez said:
I'll often do a less than total fill while i am not empty, should i be passing a convenient/cheap station and have time on my side, and know that i have upcoming lengthy journeys where perhaps time will not be so forthcoming.

Probably more likely?
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This makes no sense to me either. You have an upcoming lengthy journey, you are at a cheap or convenient station, why wouldn't you fill it? I mean, it COULD be coincidental that brimming the tank only took £40. But it doesn't seem very likely to me personally.

[TW]Fox said:
I just realised I am going to put about 40 quid in my rented Jaguar today to return it full. I hope I'm not judged :(
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Not for that.
 
I never understand why people don't just brim their tanks in their own cars either. It seems silly only putting £20 in at a time (if it's empty, and you're not just topping it up for a long journey as mentioned above!) since you're only going to be visiting petrol stations more often
 
Howard said:
I never understand why people don't just brim their tanks in their own cars either. It seems silly only putting £20 in at a time (if it's empty, and you're not just topping it up for a long journey as mentioned above!) since you're only going to be visiting petrol stations more often
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I'd imagine for some people they can't afford to top the tank up everytime they visit and have budgeted the £20 top up.
 
xs2man said:
Even seen it the other day with a few month old Jag. Guy only put £40 in. I mean, wtf... £40k car, cant fill it up. It was probably a 2.0 diesel though, and he didn't want the extra weight of a full tank so he could get moar empeegees though.
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Last time i had an F Type I put £10 in. :D Topping it up to ensure full on return.
 
Howard said:
I never understand why people don't just brim their tanks in their own cars either. It seems silly only putting £20 in at a time (if it's empty, and you're not just topping it up for a long journey as mentioned above!) since you're only going to be visiting petrol stations more often
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For the same reason why my girlfriend
grudas said:
Same on Z4s.. mine only holds the car on the very last click! E46 based so similar issues.
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Mine was like that until about 18 months ago when changed the rear discs and adjusted the shoes at the back. My handbrake has been perfect ever since and it's dead easy to adjust - you just have to turn a little thing until you feel some resistance when turning the disc by hand.
 
E85 is considered inferior fuel though and gives crap mpg. It's only cheaper because of government subsidies :/
 
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Howard said:
I never understand why people don't just brim their tanks in their own cars either. It seems silly only putting £20 in at a time (if it's empty, and you're not just topping it up for a long journey as mentioned above!) since you're only going to be visiting petrol stations more often
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I've always had the habit of running on the bottom 1/2 of the tank and only fill when I'm doing a long journey - I just seem to wait for the light to come on and then add £25-30. I don't know where I got it from, but I've always told myself that more fuel = more weight and thus worse mpg (and performance). I'm pretty sure I've read/heard of some taxi drivers using this mentality to eek out the best mpg. Whether there's any noticeable difference in mpg with that extra ~20litres (~14kg) though, probably minimal.
 
ubersonic said:
Interesting, back in 2013 when UK pumps started swapping from E5 to E10 they said that EN regs limited ethanol blends to 10%.
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http://epure.org/about-ethanol/fuel-market/fuel-blends/

This article suggests that E85 is available over quite a bit of Europe....

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Nasher said:
E85 is considered inferior fuel though and gives crap mpg. It's only cheaper because of government subsidies :/
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Maybe it's an Aussie thing and their normal fuel is even worse but judging by mightycarmods, people go to a fair bit of expense to convert cars to E85 for performance benefits, it can't be that bad?
 
Kenai said:
Maybe it's an Aussie thing and their normal fuel is even worse but judging by mightycarmods, people go to a fair bit of expense to convert cars to E85 for performance benefits, it can't be that bad?
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It is higher octane, but contains less energy (CV is lower). Hence lower MPG, but good for custom engine mapping.
 
Jez said:
It is higher octane, but contains less energy (CV is lower). Hence lower MPG, but good for custom engine mapping.
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I suppose if energy density is the only concern but it seems a bit blinkered to brand a fuel inferior in general because one feature isn't as good.
 
ubersonic said:
Interesting, back in 2013 when UK pumps started swapping from E5 to E10 they said that EN regs limited ethanol blends to 10%.
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You are talking about regular unleaded petrol, E85 is a completely separate fuel. Not sure how much interest there would be for normal cars but for turbo'd tuner cars it's awesome stuff, a lot more knock resistant than standard petrol and you can make considerable power gains out of it. Sucks we can't get it, I would welcome scrapping super unleaded in favour of E85.
 
Most people forgot that 9/10 cars that do use E85 are either flex fuel compatible from the factory or are using aftermarket ECUs with flex sensors meaning the economy drawback is largely bogus too.

£100 sensor, an hours wiring/plumbing and a couple of hours tuning and my MX5 would be fully flex fuel capable

You can full up with regular unleaded for a long journey, then switch back to E85 when you're done with no fuss or hassle (You also only need about 35% ethanol IIRC for all of the performance benefits)
 
Frozennova said:
Fifth gear did some years ago.


I'd be more excited if we saw E85 at the pump
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When I was tuning my Westfield, I got 12 bhp more on Tesco 99 Ron vs regular unleaded. If I ever have to fill up with regular unleaded, I can switch to a more conservative map on my phone.
 
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