Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?

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I gotta say the more I see the more I reckon Cleganebowl will happen and I think the faithless Hound has learnt/earns faith in the Lord of Light, I think he will set is sword aflame like Beric and Thoros.

I also think after reading some of the comments and seeing a few FB pic it's that Bran made might be the Night King. I don't have any strong proof but it feels like a possible twist.
 
The only way the could be the same person is if Bran got stuck in there on his time travel adventures.
They can't physically be the same person, given that it was thousands of years ago. Besides, we've already seen what the guy looked like before he was turned into the NK, and he obviously didn't look like Bran.
 
LeMson said:
Bran and the nk have different noses, it'd be very lazy for them suddenly be the same person :)
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so does Hodor but that doesn't stop bran from taking over his body, we've seen the night king getting created already, we know the actual person isn't bran, the idea is surely that bran takes over his body like he's done before with Hodor, I did wonder about it when someone posted the idea a few pages ago but I'm pretty skeptical about this 'theory'. It doesn't seem to be based on anything other than the fact the night king has some of the same powers as bran... but then again so have others like his previous companion and at least one willing we've seen.
 
PlacidCasual said:
I gotta say the more I see the more I reckon Cleganebowl will happen and I think the faithless Hound has learnt/earns faith in the Lord of Light, I think he will set is sword aflame like Beric and Thoros.
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Have we actually seen the mountain do anything impressive since Qyburn saved him from death? He's lumbered round looking menacing, and it was implied that he was going to rape the high septa to death, but have we seen anything to suggest he's actually still any good at fighting? He behaves more like Frankenstein's monster at this stage.
 
The only reason for Bran to become the NK is if there is some unknown big bad or impending catyclismic event yet to be revealed that needs the WW army to destroy it.

One of the other God's maybe pulling the strings in the background, whom will be a real as the ones we have seen giving power like the LoL and MFG.

I am starting to feel something will be revealed that makes the war of the 7 Kingdoms and even the assumed war with the undead irrelevant.

Surprised there hasn't been more emphasis on the NK going to touch the dragon to raise it, almost like it was an old friend whereas the other undead he just raised his arms.
 
sigma said:
Why are there so few episodes? What's the rush to finish it?
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It's the reality of making a series not a soap and having to work within the constraints of real life. Everyone involved in the production from cast to crew, no matter how much they enjoy it, doesn't want their life to revolve round a single job forever. The writers/producers have had less and less material to adapt the last couple of seasons - GRRM was confident he'd finish the series before they caught up (they certainly didn't sign up ever thinking they'd be in the position they are now where they only have his bare-bones 'how it finishes' outline to work with) - and you can't press pause on TV productions with years between series like you could with a novel, once they started they had to finish. This series had the longest production time yet and the running time is only 1.5 hours less than S6. Despite fewer episodes it required more work than ever.

The show began overtaking the books in series 5 IIRC (they originally wanted 7 series for 7 books but it didn't work out) and ultimately there isn't much story left to tell now. By contrast, GRRM has created the opposite problem for himself, indulging in so much complexity and having so many more characters that it seems like he's struggling to tie it up in 2 books.
 
Vonhelmet said:
Have we actually seen the mountain do anything impressive since Qyburn saved him from death? He's lumbered round looking menacing, and it was implied that he was going to rape the high septa to death, but have we seen anything to suggest he's actually still any good at fighting? He behaves more like Frankenstein's monster at this stage.
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Its that very fact that he seems so slow and lumbering that makes me think that the scene where Arya fights Brienne by being nimble and swift was a foreshadowing that it will be her that defeats the Mountain using the same style
 
Somnambulist said:
It's the reality of making a series not a soap and having to work within the constraints of real life. Everyone involved in the production from cast to crew, no matter how much they enjoy it, doesn't want their life to revolve round a single job forever. The writers/producers have had less and less material to adapt the last couple of seasons - GRRM was confident he'd finish the series before they caught up (they certainly didn't sign up ever thinking they'd be in the position they are now where they only have his bare-bones 'how it finishes' outline to work with) - and you can't press pause on TV productions with years between series like you could with a novel, once they started they had to finish. This series had the longest production time yet and the running time is only 1.5 hours less than S6. Despite fewer episodes it required more work than ever.

The show began overtaking the books in series 5 IIRC (they originally wanted 7 series for 7 books but it didn't work out) and ultimately there isn't much story left to tell now. By contrast, GRRM has created the opposite problem for himself, indulging in so much complexity and having so many more characters that it seems like he's struggling to tie it up in 2 books.
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Apparently he was aiming for 3 volumes when he started off. Clearly he has no discipline whatsoever...
 
Vonhelmet said:
Apparently he was aiming for 3 volumes when he started off. Clearly he has no discipline whatsoever...
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To quote the man himself:

“I think there are two types of writers, the architects and the gardeners. The architects plan everything ahead of time, like an architect building a house. They know how many rooms are going to be in the house, what kind of roof they're going to have, where the wires are going to run, what kind of plumbing there's going to be. They have the whole thing designed and blueprinted out before they even nail the first board up. The gardeners dig a hole, drop in a seed and water it. They kind of know what seed it is, they know if planted a fantasy seed or mystery seed or whatever. But as the plant comes up and they water it, they don't know how many branches it's going to have, they find out as it grows. And I'm much more a gardener than an architect.”
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George created a giant redwood.
 
One thing the show hasn't touched on is what are the origins of the White Walkers. I now we got that bit in the cave a few episodes ago, but we don't know why they even exist.

Feels like they are rushing towards the end. This season has been good, but is more story. There is still too much to be decided to get everything done in just 8 more episodes!

(1 this season and 7 next)

Found the answer. :p
 
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Tombstone said:
Whatever happened to Ghost???
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Mentioned in passing by Sansa as sitting about patiently in Winterfell waiting for Jon to return, unlike the Northern Lords.

The Direwolves are a production headache because CGI ones are ultimately too expensive for them to use (mainly due to rendering realistic fur) for the amount of screen-time they have, and their substitute technique of filming a real wolf, scaling it up and compositing it into a scene is very time-consuming in terms of seamlessly dropping it into the shot with the actors and also getting the animal to do what it needs to for the scene, apparently. The result is that they just avoid using them unless it's a vital part of a scene like when he was guarding Jon's body.
 
Cool little detail I read which I didn't pick up on in the Dany/Jon boat scene, she's not wearing any of her Queen accessories (the dragon chain, clasp and hairpin) for the first time this season and just being Daenerys rather than Bearer Of Many Titles, and obviously he's out of his leathers for the first time as too. It's obviously a scene about them being open and vulnerable with each other for the first time as people not leaders, but it's reinforced just as much to be about them dropping their physical armour as it is their emotional armour. Also the lighting is done in such a way as to frame her warmly and him cooly for that ice'n'fire effect. I love little filmic language touches like that.
 
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