Yep team dark pro running off the DOCP straight to 3200mhz no issues
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Yep team dark pro running off the DOCP straight to 3200mhz no issues
Looks like we have good chips then that’s low voltage for the clock speed!
Seems it...about time I get a good chip!
30 - 33 degrees idle and 58 - 60 degrees when under 100% load so temps with the Cryorig H7 are good also.
After faffing about trying to figure out what I think are high temps on my 1700X at idle I've come to the conclusion it's my new cooler. The fan started making a rattling noise last night (no cables in the way) so I changed coolers back this morning and now my idle temps are mid 20s and 55 after doing 15 mins on AIDA64 stability test. Going to have to send the cooler back now and stick with what I originally had.
I'm at 1.35v @ 3.8GHz so you're doing well!
I used the Ryzen Mem calculator thing that's been linked a couple of times, the latest version gave me some different results so I'm hoping to be stable at 3333MHz at 15-16-16-16-32
Anyone got a b350 Rog strix can share which settings you are using for things like load line calibration? I've only just got mine. I can get decent stability with Ryzen master (only quick prime stress tests 15 mins or whatever to test the water) but I am struggling to get stability with overlcocks through the bios. Any advice or recommended reading?
I've been struggling with this board for a long while, although to be fair I've not had that much time to spend on it of late.
I was running at 3.825GHz with the minimum offset (+0.0625) and LLC high - this will run prime/IBT/realbench all night but will crash while gaming after an hour or so. Dropping to 3.75Ghz solved that issue, and I suspect a little more voltage is all that is required to hit 3.8 and beyond. SOC is at 1.15 as I had trouble reaching high memory speeds, but I think that could easily be reduced it's just that I don't want to introduce too much change in one go.
You'll certainly need to set the CPU LLC to High else the vdroop is horrendous. For example even with high and voltages set to 1.3625 (with the offset) it drops down to 1.32 under extreme load, with auto/regular LLC it will drop below 1.3v! This really does complicate finding a stable overclock at the most efficient voltage.
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Be careful with LLC though, especially if you're close to the 1.425v mark. If you're between 1.4v and 1.425v, keep it LLC Auto since higher LLC will introduce a lot of overshoot and can degrade your chip.
Vdroop is normal and instead of upping LLC, all you need to do usually is just increase vcore.
Vdroop is normal and instead of upping LLC, all you need to do usually is just increase vcore.
@AndreiD, out of interest what would you recommend setting vcore at? My CPU seems to require a minimum of 1.32v to remain stable at 3.7Ghz, but I'd need set the voltage to around 1.4v to cater for the vdroop with Auto/regular LLC. That seems incredibly high to me.
I'm not sure how measurable it is but I'm not aware of any overshoot at high LLC on my particular board. HWINFO shows SVI2 @ 1.375 Max and VCCDR CPU at 1.41 Max. Can overshoot be too fleeting to pick up via software monitoring?
Edit: Forgot to mention, as this is B350 board it's using offset voltage - raising the voltage will also result in much higher idle voltages at lower pstates.
I'm not sure how measurable it is but I'm not aware of any overshoot at high LLC on my particular board. HWINFO shows SVI2 @ 1.375 Max and VCCDR CPU at 1.41 Max. Can overshoot be too fleeting to pick up via software monitoring?
Edit: Forgot to mention, as this is B350 board it's using offset voltage - raising the voltage will also result in much higher idle voltages at lower pstates.
@zola25 I'm basing this on what Raja from Asus and The Stilt said on another forum and they measured the voltage overshoot. They both recommend keeping to <LLC2 (Stilt says Auto).
It's the same for my board (X370 Prime), someone at hardwareluxx measured with a DMM at the back of the socket and LLC3 or higher introduces some overshoot. Auto should be safest, but LLC2 might help in some scenarios I guess.
Needing 1.4v to keep 3.7Ghz sounds incredibly high regardless of silicon lottery. Have you tried with manual voltage instead of offset?
My 1700 needs 1.325v with LLC Auto (Vdroop gets it down to 1.25v in Linpack stress tests) to get 3.8Ghz stable.
It's the same for my board (X370 Prime), someone at hardwareluxx measured with a DMM at the back of the socket and LLC3 or higher introduces some overshoot. Auto should be safest, but LLC2 might help in some scenarios I guess.
Needing 1.4v to keep 3.7Ghz sounds incredibly high regardless of silicon lottery. Have you tried with manual voltage instead of offset?
My 1700 needs 1.325v with LLC Auto (Vdroop gets it down to 1.25v in Linpack stress tests) to get 3.8Ghz stable.
Well Team, a solid three hours gaming tonight on 4Ghz at 1.3v. I'm of the age where I can't really be bothered stressing it for hours on end, if it games stable it's stable enough for me. So I'm pretty chuffed. Rig has also been on solid all day downloading etc no issues.
Thanks @AndreiD, that's good info.
I have two boards (both with a 1700x) and they both behave the same, this is why I believe it's a board issue rather than silicon lottery. Unfortunately B350 boards don't support manual voltage, only offset adjustment. Despite the reviews at the time, I am wondering if B350 and R7 is not a good combination.
Given the issues I've had getting the memory to work reliably at 3066 I also wonder if reducing the memory speed would reduce the required vcore, not that I wish to lose the memory speed given the impacts on CCX latency.
I have two boards (both with a 1700x) and they both behave the same, this is why I believe it's a board issue rather than silicon lottery. Unfortunately B350 boards don't support manual voltage, only offset adjustment. Despite the reviews at the time, I am wondering if B350 and R7 is not a good combination.
Given the issues I've had getting the memory to work reliably at 3066 I also wonder if reducing the memory speed would reduce the required vcore, not that I wish to lose the memory speed given the impacts on CCX latency.
@Tom|Nbk You have a golden sample if you can reach 4Ghz with only 1.3V, that's crazy good for Ryzen.
@zola25 Ah, that's really disappointing, they should have manual voltage but I guess Asus gimped them (they also cut a lot of features from the X370 Bios, very disappointing)? If you haven't already, updating the bios to the latest version might help.
And I'm also having issues getting 3200 completely stable (Team Dark Pro with Samsung B-Die), I'm settled at 2933Mhz for now.
@zola25 Ah, that's really disappointing, they should have manual voltage but I guess Asus gimped them (they also cut a lot of features from the X370 Bios, very disappointing)? If you haven't already, updating the bios to the latest version might help.
And I'm also having issues getting 3200 completely stable (Team Dark Pro with Samsung B-Die), I'm settled at 2933Mhz for now.