*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

[Nutella33]

Will get that easily. its over 3.8Ghz you can start losing the heat/voltage battle but you are well equipped with that anyway

 

[Journey]

Went for the 1700, will be happy with 3.8-3.9 if i can get there, its only til the refresh anyhow

Maybe you'll get a good chip, I've had a couple of nice 1600's and 1700's over the past 9 months.

 

[Aretak]

I've had a 1700, a 1700X and a 1600 and every one of them has topped out at exactly 3.95GHz at 1.4V. The 1700 and 1700X would boot and run many things at 4GHz, but were ultimately unstable under heavy load even with more voltage. The 1600 doesn't even boot at 4GHz though. Just a black screen and me having to pull the CMOS battery, since the jumpers on my board don't work for some reason.

 

[SiDeards73]

i'll take 3.95, whats the safe Voltage limit on these chips for 24/7 operation? (Gaming 99% of the time)

 

[mattyg]

Do different tasks create more heat.

I mean is 100% utilisation 100% no matter what its doing.

I've been mining all day gpu and cpu @ 100% 1700X and 1080ti
Temps both at 44Deg with my fans on pretty quiet.

 

[Aretak]

i'll take 3.95, whats the safe Voltage limit on these chips for 24/7 operation? (Gaming 99% of the time)

1.425V is the absolute limit according to Rob Hallock from AMD. At 1.45V and beyond their models have shown the potential to affect longevity.

Heat really doesn't seem to be a problem though, at least in non-AVX workloads. Even with all cores under full load, the 1700X at 1.4V sat in the low 60s with a single tower air cooler (a Noctua NH-U14S). You can knock ten degrees off that for gaming.

 

[AndreiD]

Yeah I wish I'd have gone for the Crosshair - the X370 Prime is awful, the last BIOS update was released without a changelog...thanks ASUS!

Same, the Prime is nice because it has a really beefy VRM for the price bracket it's in, but the BIOS support so far has been awful.

 

[a66as]

Still havn't overclocked anything with my ryzen cpu (still running at 3.7) and my ram (at 2133mhz) even though its rated at 3466. been too lazy but im still seeing great frames in destiny 2 and division etc. am i mad to have not tried yet?

 

[SupraWez]

Still havn't overclocked anything with my ryzen cpu (still running at 3.7) and my ram (at 2133mhz) even though its rated at 3466. been too lazy but im still seeing great frames in destiny 2 and division etc. am i mad to have not tried yet?

Yes

 

[Aretak]

Still havn't overclocked anything with my ryzen cpu (still running at 3.7) and my ram (at 2133mhz) even though its rated at 3466. been too lazy but im still seeing great frames in destiny 2 and division etc. am i mad to have not tried yet?

You'd be mad to leave the RAM like that, certainly. The benefits of faster RAM are huge with Ryzen. Even tightening the timings at a given frequency can produce huge gains. I gained around 20fps in the Hitman benchmark just from adjusting subtimings on my RAM at 3200MHz.

It's nuts how a few minor timings that you'd never even bother touching on an Intel system can increase performance so dramatically on Ryzen.

 

[opethdisciple]

Just take a photo and fill it all in as the program suggests tbh. Some of the timing names are slightly different on my C6H but you can tell what goes where due to the number patterns.

There's also a tab for power settings in the program that gives you the best phase power controls for the RAM/VDDSOC/Soc/CPU etc if your board has those options.

Can't say about performance between safe and fast. There's also an 'extra safe' tick option as well tho.

Unfortunately after spending some time to enter in all my timings etc, it didn't work.

I then tried the alt1 and alt2 termination settings but still boot loop.

Gave up after a minor scare when it wouldn't give me any monitor display and hence no BIOS.

Back to normal eventually.

I'm happy enough with 3066Mhz and it is rock stable as well.

 

[AndreiD]

You'd be mad to leave the RAM like that, certainly. The benefits of faster RAM are huge with Ryzen. Even tightening the timings at a given frequency can produce huge gains. I gained around 20fps in the Hitman benchmark just from adjusting subtimings on my RAM at 3200MHz.

It's nuts how a few minor timings that you'd never even bother touching on an Intel system can increase performance so dramatically on Ryzen.

Issue there is that you need top tier Samsung B-die to get 3200LL or higher stable, aka the big boy ~4000Mhz kits (or less if you get lucky). And by stable I mean no memory errors even after extensive memtests.
Usually 3200Mhz with safe timings is a lot more achievable, but not a certainty either.

 

[Nutella33]

Yeah but 2133mhz is just painful. Even a 2800/2900 would be an easy benefit that is more than achievable with any kit. Hynix or not.

Unfortunately after spending some time to enter in all my timings etc, it didn't work.

Ah sorry to hear, did you use thaiphoon and remember to click the convert to ms at the end of the report card? Sure you did but some people have been missing that step.

Likewise I was happy with 3000 as well and had settled to waiting for 1007 microcode release after a few bug fixes for 3200+ before seeing it linked so can understand you going back to it. Was worth a shot at least

 

[chroniclard]

Annoying, 4000% memtest 1 error with 3333 "fast" timings. Tempted to just ignore it......

 

[Tom|Nbk]

Annoying, 4000% memtest 1 error with 3333 "fast" timings. Tempted to just ignore it......

I would that difference in Day to Day will be 99.9% fine

 

[chroniclard]

Yeah think I will leave it at that.....until the next AGESA release.

or I switch back to my rma returned 8 pack memory and start tweaking that.....

 

[opethdisciple]

Ah sorry to hear, did you use thaiphoon and remember to click the convert to ms at the end of the report card? Sure you did but some people have been missing that step.

Likewise I was happy with 3000 as well and had settled to waiting for 1007 microcode release after a few bug fixes for 3200+ before seeing it linked so can understand you going back to it. Was worth a shot at least

Yep. Switched it too ns. Entered in all my timing etc (in the right places) but it just wouldn't budge.

Do we have any expectations as to when the 1.0.0.7 bios is coming? It's been rumored for months now.

 

[Nutella33]

Do we have any expectations as to when the 1.0.0.7 bios is coming? It's been rumored for months now.

Believe it was sometime in November, with the caveat from Asus employees that it's a total rewrite of the code in preparation for RR etc so board partners may take some time implementing it/have a few bugs initially.

Happy to be corrected tho.

 

[oweneades]

Well after repeated attempts last night to get the system to cold boot I have raised an RMA to send the bundle back.

I could boot fine at stock clocks but as soon as I enabled the profile it would hang with errors OC,OE,Od and Ab (re-seating the memory between each error) - I thought I had Bingo at one point... . I also had the occasional 68 and 78 errors thrown in for good measure.

On two random occasions I also lost the second RAM stick in the bios.

At this point I am somewhat fed up of just trying to get the thing to boot at the clocks I expect (bundle @ 3.9 & RAM @ 3200 C14 (8pack TG).

Raw performance wise I have nothing but positive things to say about the R5 1600 (and the 1700 I had prior) but damn, these issues have been more than annoying.

 

[SiDeards73]

My 1700 just turned up, many thanks OCUK for such a sterling service as always! Will pull apart my current rig this weekend and put the new one together.