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Tom|Nbk

Tom|Nbk

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Can you pull something out the bag to bring back that old school 'value for money' feeling that many of us remember in the early days.

For the record I'm on the bench, literally waiting on benchies for the Ti but wondering....

Can AMD capitalize on NVIDIA's price gouge?

Discuss.
 
LOL! Good luck with that, AMD no longer want to be the 'budget brand' remember? They'll do nothing but match nVidia as they have done for a while.

They are not your friends, we are merely walking wallets to them.
 
JediFragger said:
LOL! Good luck with that, AMD no longer want to be the 'budget brand' remember? They'll do nothing but match nVidia as they have done for a while.

They are not your friends, we are merely walking wallets to them.
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It'll be interesting few months for sure
 
Tom|Nbk said:
We will see, they can go two ways with this...
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I know a lot of you guys see AMD as the unsung heroes but within the PC Graphics card realm, I can't help but feel they push the barriers for console gamers and just come to us when they need a bit more cash.

I get the vibe they just don't want to compete at the high end and sadly with 4k, ultrawide and VR pushing any enthusiasts towards upgrading... it makes it hard to take them seriously.
 
AMD simply did not make enough money when they did try to compete with Nvidia even 10 years ago,so in the end they pushed most of their recent R and D to CPUs,where they see more money to be made. Also with console contracts they get paid for their work so OFC they will do that,as there is no guarantee they will make all that money back selling higher end gaming cards,and at least the console contracts help to pay for R and D costs. So I expect AMD at most will try and compete in the midrange especially with the enormous costs even taping out one GPU or CPU.
 
Value for money days are long gone in this sector, or should I say if you want one of the new cards anywhere near its release date.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
AMD simply did not make enough money when they did try to compete with Nvidia even 10 years ago,so in the end they pushed most of their recent R and D to CPUs,where they see more money to be made. Also with console contracts they get paid for their work so OFC they will do that,as there is no guarantee they will make all that money back selling higher end gaming cards,and at least the console contracts help to pay for R and D costs. So I expect AMD at most will try and compete in the midrange especially with the enormous costs even taping out one GPU or CPU.
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Yup, they can no longer afford to be the charity that brings down the prices of Nvidia silicon that everyone will buy instead. Unfortunately they are a business and have to actually make money rather than simply throw it away anymore.
 
jwsg said:
They've capped any improvement to normal in-game performance by giving over so much of the chip to specialised AI and RT functions - much like it's annoying that so much of a CPU is given over to a iGPU that's hardly ever used. This might make them vulnerable to AMD catching them up - just like has happened to CPUs

Even if competition is not forthcoming poor sales could lead to pressure from retailers for price reductions this time.
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Food for thought post here.
 
I had an interesting thought regarding all this raytracing stuff. Navi was rumoured to be a MCM type setup with multiple identical chips,trying to appear as one GPU to software. Apparently this is hard to do and AMD said Navi was a normal GPU. However,what if a future AMD GPU line are normal monolithic GPUs but using IF to integrate a co-processor for things like ray tracing?? Hence two smaller chips on a MCM.

It probably won't happen,but I thought it would be an alternate way forwards,instead of large chips??
 
Ayahuasca said:
In the very remote chance AMD do have something up their sleeve, will nVidia not just release some 2XXX series cards without the RTX chip and spin it off as them being saviours.
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Nvidia still have a bigger 20** card to release than even the titan for this series, the 2080ti should be the 2080, the titan should be the 2080ti and the full fat chip will come later as another titan like they did with Pascal.
 
subbytna said:
Nvidia still have a bigger 20** card to release than even the titan for this series
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I know that, but price wise that isn't going to be competitive, I'm talking if AMD surprise us all and bring out a series that can compete lower down for far less cash. Not sure how much nVidia can drop their prices on these without it looking like they've well and truly milked early adopters. That being said if they released new cards without RTX as a quick fix then people would lose faith in the tech. I think they're pretty confident AMD won't come up with much.
 
Ayahuasca said:
In the very remote chance AMD do have something up their sleeve, will nVidia not just release some 2XXX series cards without the RTX chip and spin it off as them being saviours.
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Nvidia will counter whatever AMD does due to their resources and determination to dominant the market. Best case scenario is AMD offering a range of low to mid range products to which Nvidia will answer with their equivalents (like the X60 range) that everyone buys even if priced higher. Even with competitive products in this range I still don't see them gaining any significant market share, didn't worked the last two times.
 
Rozzy85 said:
Nvidia will counter whatever AMD does due to their resources and determination to dominant the market. Best case scenario is AMD offering a range of low to mid range products to which Nvidia will answer with their equivalents (like the X60 range) that everyone buys even if priced higher. Even with competitive products in this range I still don't see them gaining any significant market share, didn't worked the last two times.
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AMD already did that with the 570 and 580 cards. Targeted mid range.
 
It's a very interesting scenario if AMD has something to compete with these new nvidia cards and then managed to sell them at a much lower price :D
 
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