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[easyrider]

Can you remind us of the relative price and performance metrics at the moment in time that you bought that 9900K (that you later sold)...?
I think there's an element of cognitive dissonance going on here with you.

I was referring to people watching their wallets....I will probably get a 3900x for £499 but not decided yet...

 

[lettuce]

15% increase at a much lower tdp is significant though. Why are you writing it off like that's not an achievement.

That's decent and although anyone on Ryzen 2XXX series don't need to upgrade, people on the 1XXX series or older Intel CPU have a great upgrade path at a decent price point.

So one of the Ryzen 2XXX series i would see a massive performance boost over my current i7-4770K @ 4.2Ghz if keeping just my GPU from my system in my sig?

 

[easyrider]

The usual suspects desperately trying to make a negative out of all this I see. They're just objective neutrals though... honest!

No company or brand is off limits for critique

 

[voidshatter]

My only disappointment is no 16c at launch

No 16C32T, no stock 5GHz. But that IPC improvement looks great though.

 

[beany_bot]

Wonder why Lisa kept refering to the 3800x as the "best gaming CPU". When the 12 core actually has 100mhz on it?

 

[Zeed]

@humbug remember week or so ago when I said them cpus will eat loads of power ?? If this takes 245w @4.1 in CINEBENCH you are looking at 320w in IBT at damn 4.1. Vcore is 0.03v higher than my daily one.
SoC needs more Vcore I see. Atm I'm sitting at 1.025 here its at 1.2.
Not sure about Cooling but its 82c so thats More than I got at around same watts by 8c

 

[Martini1991]

The all core overclocking of the 3800X is absolutely vital.

If it can get 4.6Ghz all cores with the touted 15% IPC improvement then its an absolute winner for me.

 

[humbug]

Well the thing is people have had people like you hyping them up for months and months lol.

With all the supposed product stack changes etc.

I'm more than happy with what AMD have offered though. I'm in for the 3800X at least, potentially the 3900X

Given I bought my 2700 for 270 at launch I would have preferred a $300 RRP for the 3700X though.

I just need a new graphics card as well though

Well no, for one i have been consistent citing the required amount of salt, even if that were true i'm not responsible for peoples lack of independent thought.

 

[CuriousTomCat]

Do you guys think the 15% IPC improvement takes into account its 2x cache, 2x floating point perf and up to 28% more multi perf? Or is it 15% IPC improvement PLUS 2x cache, 2x floating point perf and up to 28% more multi perf?

 

[Curlyriff]

3800x £399...tad pricy no?

Compared to what exactly? Tbh it is the least favourable chip out the 3 shown though. But that's £50 less with better performance than the i9 9900k if you include multi thread stuff or stream whilst gaming etc.

That's still decent and tbh the £330 3700x makes much more sense for price to perfmance even against the i9 9900k whilst being £120 less. Within 1% performance in single thread, 10% multithread is impressive.

Then if you went £50 more you get significant improvements with the 12 core and that's assuming the i9 9900k remains at £450 rather than £500.

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

Let's get a few things in perspective. Lisa only announced 3 SKU's this morning, the 3700x, 3800x and the 3900x. Obviously there will be more SKU's added as time moves on, there could be more SKU's added in a few weeks time.
As for prices, the 3800x is aimed to compete with the 9900K. A 9900K is priced at £500 from our hosts and the 3800x is priced at $399 (£314). Tell me what is so underwhelming ?

I'm underwhelmed because that's how I feel. I was hoping and expecting 16 core parts at a reasonable price, instead it feels like AMD are intentionally holding back the top SKU's for no particular reason. All the anti Intel vitriol about holding back cpu progress and AMD appear to be doing the exact same thing by drip feeding chips...

So is the long and short of it that it's basically 8 core cpu's again for gaming with slightly better performance than a stock 9900k? Nothing on whether the gaming derived 12 cores are better or worse for gaming?

PS you don't really think $399 equates to £314? More likely £399 if not more.

 

[Zeed]

@Martini1991 Hope You got Cooling on pair with Mine Looking at that 16 core photo !!!!

 

[Martini1991]

Well no, for one i have been consistent citing the required amount of salt, even if that were true i'm not responsible for peoples lack of independent thought.

You've done it every single launch for as long as I can remember.

I mean people have themselves to blame for once again falling for it lol.

I'm not blaming you as such, just saying what happens.

 

[humbug]

@humbug remember week or so ago when I said them cpus will eat loads of power ?? If this takes 245w @4.1 in CINEBENCH you are looking at 320w in IBT at damn 4.1. Vcore is 0.03v higher than my daily one.

IBT will push a 16 core Skylake-X past 600 watts overclocked, it's just a high stress stability testing tool, 245 Watts in Cinebench is day to day high stress and for an all core overclocks 16 core CPU that's pretty good and way off what bulzoid was hyperboling.

 

[Jono8]

Don't really see the point in having the 3700x and 3800x

 

[Martini1991]

@Martini1991 Hope You got Cooling on pair with Mine Looking at that 16 core photo !!!!

I've got a 120.3 radiator sitting in the cupboard.

 

[Stephanie Peterson]

The 16 core will of course use more power, 135w maybe.
Of course overclocked it will approach 9900K stock usage ie loads - but who doesnt think a 16 core 32 thread processor will use a good deal of grunt when overclocked.

The 3700 using just 65 is mad, wonder if the 3800s jump to 105 is due to a higher % of time at the boost clock... who care will be overclocked anyway - 4.6 ghz all core will be smashing if possible, anything more bonus.

 

[easyrider]

Don't really see the point in having the 3700x and 3800x

You could look at it this way...

Tbh if and I mean if the 3900x 12/24 chip is £499 then I’m glad I sold my 9900k

Going from a £499 9900k 5ghz all cores to a £399 3800x just doesn’t get me excited...

It’s a shame the 3800x wasn’t a 12/24 part at £399

£100 is nothing to me...so I’ll se how I feel in the coming weeks

 

[Silent_Scone]

Wonder why Lisa kept refering to the 3800x as the "best gaming CPU". When the 12 core actually has 100mhz on it?

Comes down to the design. There's additional latency there. That's not to say the higher SKU aren't any good for gaming, though.

 

[xtremedetailz]

That was happening 2 years ago...all it is is 15% faster than 2700x

If you can get a 2700 for £200 that’s the chip to get !

And i happen to have a brand new one for sale in the Members Market