AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[FoxEye]

Linus Torvalds is commenting on the AMD launch? At least he might actually have a clue what he was talking about.

For the record I also used to work in a PC shop and could, given the money, hire people who know what they are talking about (ok at least half the time). Doesn't make ME someone worth listening to does it?

Nah some YouTube "celebrity" reviewer also called Linus. Not the Linux kernel guy!

 

[Thekwango]

when do the mobo vendors (specifically gigabyte - don't care about the rest of the dross lol) release pricing or have i just missed that in the thread?

 

[FoxEye]

6 core, OC to max and get a better GPU or monitor to compliment it/ spend savings on

Not with the new consoles having 8 Zen2 cores (not some crappy Jaguar mobile part).

Plus PC gamers have got Windows +assorted crapware sitting on top.

GL with your 6-core CPU in the coming years, not even being able to match the console experience. No thanks!

 

[easyrider]

With consoles being 8 core the more I think pc should be 12 core at least.

 

[Scougar]

Calmed down a bit from my am posting. .500 is a fair wack of cash, but you have to admit... That perf for the money if you do more than just gaming is stunning. (Even if it is higher than expected).

Not surprised. Lisa herself said years ago in a presentation that they wanted to be seen as a premium brand (in short they would be upping prices)

 

[Scougar]

I am expecting the mboards to be silly money this release.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Not with the new consoles having 8 Zen2 cores (not some crappy Jaguar mobile part).

Plus PC gamers have got Windows +assorted crapware sitting on top.

GL with your 6-core CPU in the coming years, not even being able to match the console experience. No thanks!

just because a console has 8 cores, and they are Zen2 will equal a same or higher quality Console port to PC.

currently consoles are multicore X86 and ports are just useless. also with console history , it takes a while to get to grips with coding for consoles, about half way through its cycle, by the end of it, truly amazing coding is performed to get stunning games at the end of their life ( Have a BA honors in Games design and few years working with Developer kits from son/ms)

Plus 80% of games on steam are max 2 cores, most common cpu is i3 2 core 4 thread by about 70% if i can recall .

a perfect coded game scales well , so far only games to do that are Lost Planet 2 and 3 - dream right there for next gen gaming

and by the time PS5 comes out, PC Master race will be on higher cores, faster speeds, faster ram, better GPUs, ray tracing, deep learning etc - and games will still be 4 cores at most pmsl

 

[Phixsator]

My bet is on a 12core piece to be 4,2-4,3 all core boost with single core boost of around 4,5-4,6. If that comes true and we get the 15% improvement to IPC on top of it i would certainly change my 2600 to a 12 core Zen 2 chip if my b450 can handle it. The only reason why I think we might see higher clocked chips in general is because TMSC's seems a more capable fab company than GloFO.

I have to do this.. sorry folks.. but darn im good.

 

[Ross Thomson]

can't wait for the navi prices lol

 

[hyperseven]

Not with the new consoles having 8 Zen2 cores (not some crappy Jaguar mobile part).

Plus PC gamers have got Windows +assorted crapware sitting on top.

GL with your 6-core CPU in the coming years, not even being able to match the console experience. No thanks!

How will it not match the console experience? You do know that PCs can be paired with an uber powerful discrete GPU too

 

[kitfit1]

I am expecting the mboards to be silly money this release.

Ohhhhhhh yes lol. The mobo manufactures will want to screw every last penny they think they can get away with. With so many of them on board and up to speed this release, they are not going to miss the opportunity to make hay while the sun shines.

 

[humbug]

I was all aboard the hype train until Linus said, 'all the motherboards have a fan'. Erm. No thanks. Also, for 11 watts is a fan really needed? The Surface Pro from 2017 used a 15 watt CPU and was fanless. PCs kinda have a load of air going through it. Kill the fan please.

you changed your mind on the whole thing because Linus said he doesn't like the fans?

 

[ben90]

6 core, OC to max and get a better GPU or monitor to compliment it/ spend savings on

I already have a 6 core, albeit the first gen. Unless the new 6 cores overclock like crazy I think I would be better off spying a 2700x deal and waiting for the prices of Zen 2 to drop.

I am expecting the mboards to be silly money this release.

This is another reason I am pulling out from the 12 core. Not expecting these motherboard to be cheap.

 

[HeX]

The design.... Id rather have 1x8core chiplet than 2x4core ones Totally worth the extra price !!! 1x8 will be superrior on latencies simple as that.

They are all 1 x chiplet apart from the 3900X...

 

[orbitalwalsh]

I already have a 6 core, albeit the first gen. Unless the new 6 cores overclock like crazy I think I would be better off spying a 2700x deal and waiting for the prices of Zen 2 to drop.



This is another reason I am pulling out from the 12 core. Not expecting these motherboard to be cheap.

ah fair enough, goign from 6 cores to 6 cores i would expect over 1ghz increase in speed .

think x570 entry boards are £115

Gigabyte pulled off the Cheap UD with more phases then most z390, x470 and z370 buy using lots of cheaper mosfet units .

 

[d_brennen]

The chipset is 15w and temperature controlled, we'll see passive options soon, I have no doubt about it. The fan seems a last minute decision to make it work for launch. We aren't talking chipset fans from the 90s/early 2000s

 

[~>Dg<~]

you changed your mind on the whole thing because Linus said he doesn't like the fans?

noise is quite a big thing to many. i guess no noise is better than any noise.

 

[4K8KW10]

6 core, OC to max and get a better GPU or monitor to compliment it/ spend savings on

just because a console has 8 cores, and they are Zen2 will equal a same or higher quality Console port to PC.

currently consoles are multicore X86 and ports are just useless. also with console history , it takes a while to get to grips with coding for consoles, about half way through its cycle, by the end of it, truly amazing coding is performed to get stunning games at the end of their life ( Have a BA honors in Games design and few years working with Developer kits from son/ms)

Plus 80% of games on steam are max 2 cores, most common cpu is i3 2 core 4 thread by about 70% if i can recall .

a perfect coded game scales well , so far only games to do that are Lost Planet 2 and 3 - dream right there for next gen gaming

and by the time PS5 comes out, PC Master race will be on higher cores, faster speeds, faster ram, better GPUs, ray tracing, deep learning etc - and games will still be 4 cores at most pmsl

You get 100% load on your six-core CPUs. Comment.

 

[humbug]

noise is quite a big thing to many. i guess no noise is better than any noise.

I don't think they come on unless they are needed, and you only need them if you're running multiple NVMe drives in raid.

 

[greatash]

6 cores is fine for gaming for a couple years imo, 4/8 is still okish and your forgetting consoles reserve a core or two for os aswell as being clocked low due to heat/power constraints
They're not just going to slap a 3700x into the ps5, it'll be a cut down apu at sub 3ghz