Greta Thunberg

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I don't understand why she needs to offer solutions to be credible. Must we all be experts in anything we want to voice an opinion on? Her earnestness is a little disconcerting, perhaps she should take PR lessons with Malala Yousafzai, who was much less reviled in a similar position.

Malala took a bullet to the head for daring to go to school and continued speaking despite constant death threats from Islamists.

Gretas whole pitch is screaming into space at some imagined climate destroying bogeyman whilst benefitting from safety and luxury from the most advanced civilisations ever to walk the planet.
 
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Climate change deniers usually are horrible human beings to be fair:p

A vast majority of people who don't like the thumbug aren't climate change deniers, I just don't like being dictated to by a damaged know-it-all brat on a massive ego trip with no solutions. It's the same kind of annoyance when your kids suddenly announce they've gone vegan and all meat is murder blah blah blah, shut up and eat your meat you fool
 
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A vast majority of people who don't like the thumbug aren't climate change deniers, I just don't like being dictated to by a know-it-all brat on a massive ego trip with no solutions. It's the same kind of annoyance when your kids suddenly announce they've gone vegan and all meat is murder blah blah blah, shut up and eat your meat you fool

Way to prove the point....
 
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“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”

― H.L. Mencken
 
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Yay we are cleaning the planet, more electric cars! Less emissions! Oh wait the need for more electricity to power theses cars means the plants need to produce more, creating more pollution.. Oh no

To be fair, Bill Gates was/is heavily involved in the development of a new generation of nuclear power stations that reuse spent nuclear fuel and altogether much safer and better for the environment. It was only stopped/paused due to the current trade war with China under Trump.

Watch the new Netflix documentary, the last episode is all about it.
 
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Malala took a bullet to the head for daring to go to school and continued speaking despite constant death threats from Islamists.

Gretas whole pitch is screaming into space at some imagined climate destroying bogeyman whilst benefitting from safety and luxury from the most advanced civilisations ever to walk the planet.
Malala never talked like an angry child. It isn't a good image to present.
Andi.
 
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No money really doesn't exist, it's made out of thin air on promissory notes based on how much the people born will pay in taxes in their life time. It used to exist when exchangeable for gold, but now it's literally printed on the bases of debt
 
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You're right, it does exist as a construct.. I call it the magic money tree delusion! xD

It's seems like the magic make believe money only exists in order to help keep folk controlled by the high priest magic money makers/hoarders.

I can understand money being used as a tool, but it has gotten way out of hand now.. we should do away with it as a species and move on, in my humble opinion.
 
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No money really doesn't exist, it's made out of thin air on promissory notes based on how much the people born will pay in taxes in their life time. It used to exist when exchangeable for gold, but now it's literally printed on the bases of debt

Even when based on gold it was still make believe.

I genuinely believe we can do much better things with our imaginations.
 
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Even when based on gold it was still make believe.

I genuinely believe we can do much better things with our imaginations.

When you break it down a huge amount of motive for people is still "ohh shiny", gold has other uses now but it the main drive for it was that it looked nice and we haven't really moved on that much.

Perhaps one day we'll do things as a species for the sake of advancement and improving our situation for all but that will probably be socialist / leftist / whatever ist you want to call it and bad. :rolleyes:
 
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For people that say her Parents are behind it, article today on BBC:

She explained she first heard the world's climate was changing when she was eight, and couldn't understand why so little was being done about it. By the time she was 11, she was very unhappy indeed. She stopped eating. She stopped growing, and she stopped speaking to almost everyone.

"It felt like I was the only one who cared about the climate and the ecological crisis," Thunberg told me. "My parents didn't care about it, my classmates didn't care about it, my relatives didn't care about this. I mean nobody I knew cared about this and I felt like I was the only one."

She was determined to change that and, starting with her family, she began her campaign to get the world to take action on climate change.

First, she persuaded her parents to stop eating meat and even got her mother, Malena Ernman, a famous opera singer whose career depends on travelling, to agree to stop flying.

Next came the climate strikes. One Friday just over a year ago (20 August 2018) Thunberg walked alone on to the steps of the Swedish parliament building holding her now-famous "Skolstrejk För Klimatet" - school strike for climate - sign. The rest is history. She rapidly became one of the most celebrated - and reviled - people in the world.

She has developed a network of contacts who advise her - including climate scientists and campaigners - but she's the one who calls the shots.

Those close to her confirm that she writes all her speeches.
She told me she planned to use the two-week trip across the Atlantic to figure out what she was going to say at the UN Climate Summit.

"I will try and communicate the urgency and say that they are the ones in charge now. Show leadership!" she said.

She certainly did that on Monday when she accused world leaders of "stealing my dreams and my childhood", and warned them that "the eyes of all future generations are upon you. And, if you choose to fail us, I say: 'We will never forgive you'".

So, how about her mental health? And, while we're about it, does anyone have the right to comment on it? What's so impressive about Thunberg is how clear-headed she is on the urgent need for action in the light of the science.

Understandably, Thunberg particularly resents her mental capacity being called into question. "Being different is not an illness and the current, best available science is not opinions - it's facts", she said this week.

She acknowledges that she was very unhappy in the past, but says that championing the climate issue has helped lift her out of despair.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49855980
 
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She told me she planned to use the two-week trip across the Atlantic to figure out what she was going to say at the UN Climate Summit.

I knew it, if she wasn't stuck on a boat for two weeks she prob wouldn't have gone all 'how daaare youuu'
 
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I really don't get the hatred towards this young woman. Is it some sort of guilty reaction? People know that what she's saying is true and looking inwardly they know they're to blame but can't be bothered or are too selfish to act?
 
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