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AMD Ryzen 5 3500X / 3900 (non-x) ???

MaXxBoulton said:
Look at the gaming performance.. no faster and in most games slower.. and double the price. Your right 3600 all the way
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Purely in a gaming sense.. For everything else 3600 stomps. Nobody cares about single threaded chips anymore, which is why they're barely sold
 
Praz94 said:
Purely in a gaming sense.. For everything else 3600 stomps. Nobody cares about single threaded chips anymore, which is why they're barely sold
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Sounding like a novice here.

A 3500X offer massive value vs. any other CPU at this price point, and SMT doesn't offer 100% more performance vs the cores it is attached to. Why do you think the i7 9700K is so popular vs the 9900K? SMT/HT isn't work £xxx pounds for most folk. And when you are at the lower end of the market where every £ counts, then SMT is way less valuable than other options that could be upgraded.

SMT is a nice to have if it is being offered with no cost, or a small cost added not double the cost.
 
Cant you turn off multithreading on a 3600 in the bios,?

I remember the i7 920 being similar in games with hyperthreading disabled
 
Journey said:
Sounding like a novice here.

A 3500X offer massive value vs. any other CPU at this price point, and SMT doesn't offer 100% more performance vs the cores it is attached to. Why do you think the i7 9700K is so popular vs the 9900K? SMT/HT isn't work £xxx pounds for most folk. And when you are at the lower end of the market where every £ counts, then SMT is way less valuable than other options that could be upgraded.

SMT is a nice to have if it is being offered with no cost, or a small cost added not double the cost.
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I see what you're saying, but I'm talking about everyday use not just gaming.. In which case SMT is massively helpful. Obviously not as simple as "double threads = double performance" but the jump is big enough.

The main reason to get one would be the price as its good value I admit, but then again so would a 4 core processor be? Point is its not really enough in todays day
 
Praz94 said:
I see what you're saying, but I'm talking about everyday use not just gaming.. In which case SMT is massively helpful. Obviously not as simple as "double threads = double performance" but the jump is big enough.

The main reason to get one would be the price as its good value I admit, but then again so would a 4 core processor be? Point is its not really enough in todays day
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I wasn't talking at all about gaming, from my point-of-view that its the least important activity, yet the most argued about.

Why would you buy a 4 core processor? When one with 50% more cores cost the same?
 
Journey said:
I wasn't talking at all about gaming, from my point-of-view that its the least important activity, yet the most argued about.

Why would you buy a 4 core processor? When one with 50% more cores cost the same?
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4 cores would cost less...
 
Gibbo said:
I could bring some in but we were an AMD partner they’d not want us selling it. :(
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I guess it would only really makes sense if the price would be considerably lower than the 3600 price.

As we can always buy the 3600 and just manually disable SMT in the BIOS to achieve the same FPS 1% low result within an select game that prefers SMT to be off.

But like you said, probably not worth upsetting the AMD rep. :D
 
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For those who want to buy into Ryzen but are on a budget, I'd say the 3500X at £90-100 is ridiculously good value for money. While I do believe games will start using more threads going forward, there's nothing from stopping people buying a 3500X now from upgrading to a 4000 series chip at some point in the future. It's a cheap and powerful way for gamers on a budget to remain up to date for current and many future titles, when the new consoles launch we may start seeing changes, but as mentioned that'll be a great time to buy a nice 4700X or something.
 
The 3500x is £100 with shipping costs (providing customs dont sting you)

The 3600 can be had for £142 again if customs dont sting you

Is it worth it?
 
wazza300 said:
The 3500x is £100 with shipping costs (providing customs dont sting you)

The 3600 can be had for £142 again if customs dont sting you

Is it worth it?
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I'm also curious - has anyone bought a 3500x from China and, if so, what were custom's fees, if any, and are you satisfied with the buy?
 
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