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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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It's like going from dlss 2.0 to dlss 2.150% more DLSS, 50% more raytracing..
Thing is though nothing like the implementation of DLSS existed prior to nVidia developing it the DirectX variant is some way behind and no other standard of the same level exists... in a few years other implementations might catch up and maybe an industry standard emerge that nVidia later adopts.
Or, (more likely) they're talking out of their asses just for views.
dlss has a fixed time to operate in the frame and if the time is cut too short then it doesn't work. So essentially yes you are right dlss works best when your framerate is very low without it otherwise you may not want to use. It looks like Nvidia has reduced the fixed time for dlss 2.1 going by the rtx3000 charts but it's still a case of: if your game is 100fps+ without dlss then don't enable dlss
DLSS is supersampling.
It means taking a very high resolution and then bringing that back down to a lower (or your native resolution).
However, that would be crazy expensive. So instead it uses a trained model to predict that 16K image and bring it back down to say 4K.
If you wanted you can do this in combination with rendering in a 4K native image (DLSS 2X). Although it is more commonly used whilst rendering at a 1440p image to get a performance bump rather than purely an IQ improvement.
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Your not far wrong, but it would be awesome if it was available to lots of games. Truth is its a minority, and lots are remastered or throwbacks to old titles, not new games.
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Amd can be so clever this launch with the next generation consoles coming so close. Get that AMD name out to the masses if I was AMD I would be pushing for all kinds of bundles with a purchase of RDNA 2
Clever marketing can go along way.
Clever marketing can go along way.
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What they need to do is mention nVidia 5 thousand times in all their marketing, like Intel did of AMD.
"The 3060 and 3070 will out perform the new consoles by a significant margin" This is PC Master Race delusion, its PC Fanboyism that has him uttering those ridiculous words, no rational tech savvy person would utter those words the 3080 is barely double digits faster than a clocked 2080TI while the 3070 is significantly slower than that and the 3060 is not going to be any quicker than my 5700XT. But the consoles are much faster than my 5700XT.
The 6GB 3060 aint going to be out-performing much, if anything, tbh.
In the new line-up it's a low-end card. And if anything is gimped by lack of VRAM, it'll be that
But since the consoles are 4K30 at least, and people will say the 3060 is a "1080p card" (to justify the lack of VRAM), then yeah, there's no way a 3060 is going to out-perform a console.
The 6GB 3060 aint going to be out-performing much, if anything, tbh.
In the new line-up it's a low-end card. And if anything is gimped by lack of VRAM, it'll be that
But since the consoles are 4K30 at least, and people will say the 3060 is a "1080p card" (to justify the lack of VRAM), then yeah, there's no way a 3060 is going to out-perform a console.
People are on a massive Ampere hype trip right now, its the Leather Jacket effect, as soon as he opens his mouth apparently rational people completely lose touch with reality, look at JayZ2Cents and LTT Ampere reveal follow-up videos, they look like deranged sycophants, people are selling their 2080TI's in droves at a third or less of what they paid for them.
This RTG guy is in the same camp, he's completely lost touch with reality.
Considering that 2080Ti-level performance appears to be available for $500 with better ray tracing, people who ask for more than $300-400 would be deranged.
Right because "The 3070 is faster than the 2080TI"
Yes, according to NVIDIA and their dodgey benchmarks. I venture a guess that the 2080ti is not going to be as outdated as we think it is once trusted reviewers thoroughly compare and bench the cards on a myriad of games.
Those who are buying these bargain basement 2080 and 2080tis are getting a bargain IMO.
Great point. Without mass adoption, DLSS is just a bit redundant.
However, aslong as NVIDIA are smart and work with the games which will likely need DLSS (aka the most demanding games which are cutting edge like Cyperpunk) then its absolutely worth it.
I'm not too concerned about older games supporting it or not, because I'm going to assume the RTX 3080 can 4k/60 99.9999% of games released today.
The 3080 for example should be able to power through any game released up until this point in time. If NVIDIA make sure to touch base with developers of future games who will likely push the boundaries and ensure DLSS 2.0 is in those games, then obviously NVIDIA owners are onto a winner. If they don't, then its really going to die a sad death.
A huge, missed oppurtunity were games such as Red Dead Redemption 2 and Horizon Zero Dawn. If NVIDIA aren't going to work with the developers of a handful of games which the 3070, 3080 and 3090 maybe might struggle with, then they are just being stupid. Stop making RTX Quake and work with developers to maximise the features you have where we can use them where they will benefit users.
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