Soldato
Netflix's Movie "Cuties"
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Ah, seems like #cancelNetflix is trending now.
Wonder how this will work out for them, in reality only a few will actually cancel I reckon, rest might just get angry about it and vent a bit. On the other hand the poster choice was quite blatantly made to stir the pot a bit and I guess now the controversy hitting social media yesterday & today has helped market the film/get people talking about it again.
Wonder how this will work out for them, in reality only a few will actually cancel I reckon, rest might just get angry about it and vent a bit. On the other hand the poster choice was quite blatantly made to stir the pot a bit and I guess now the controversy hitting social media yesterday & today has helped market the film/get people talking about it again.
Caporegime
Fake outrage and gone by the end of the next newscycle.
A black guy will be shot by police soon to take off the heat.
A black guy will be shot by police soon to take off the heat.
Age of consent in America is 18. Not 16. She is sexing up school girls.
I mean this film isn't for middle aged men to watch, is it.
I don't understand how everyone thinks it's a bloody porn movie. Get a grip.
Shame they can't wheel out Michael Jackson any more, like Dave Chapelle said.
Na. Netflix are now in the booming industry of child porn
The only rational solution is immediately to cancel your Netflix subscription and pay your TV Licence fee
Woah woah. Steady on. That's a bit extreme!
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So is the disgust over the artwork or the listing of the movie?
I really want to watch the movie now, to form my own opinion. I remember hearing some folks discussing the wrongs of lockdown and forcibly removing our freedoms yet are disgusted in this case, cancelled their netflix subscriptions and calling for it to be banned, without having watched it. As long as the movie is not truly perverse, and does provoke thought(the right thoughts), I'm not sure about calls to ban it. If it's just a controversial movie, I think people should have the freedom to choose whether they watch it or not.
As so often is the case these days lets all show OOUUUTTTTRAAAGE
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In Cuties 2 they will probably be pole dancing and by that time the general morality of the population will have already degenerated a notch further and we'll be having the same argument all over again with some defending it.
When you keep chipping away at lines that have been drawn then in the end you're just going to end up with total depravity and a population that are fine with it. I've said it before in a few other threads but whether you believe in god or not this is basically the result of atheism and people no longer following the moral teachings of the bible. When you look to other authorities like corporations and governments for rights and wrongs there is really no limit to how low as a society you can go as those institutions reflect the morality of the population at large.
When you keep chipping away at lines that have been drawn then in the end you're just going to end up with total depravity and a population that are fine with it. I've said it before in a few other threads but whether you believe in god or not this is basically the result of atheism and people no longer following the moral teachings of the bible. When you look to other authorities like corporations and governments for rights and wrongs there is really no limit to how low as a society you can go as those institutions reflect the morality of the population at large.
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So you watched a bit, then watched a bit more
I'll say no more
People were reporting it was inappropriate so I wanted to actually judge for myself if there was genuinely inappropriate content because I was making the decision of whether to cancel my Netflix subscription which I now have done until they remove it.
I'm gay for a start so trying to insinuate I'm a paedophile makes you look ridiculous.
Soldato
You must be paranoid? Who even mentioned you?
Mentioning gay in a argument is ridiculous, not my comment to someone else....
Yes, which is precisely why I am for protecting the rights of minors not to be sexually exploited. Being libertarian doesn't mean allowing anything and everything, that's an anarchist ideology.
Netflix is what brought it to most peoples attention so understandably with how popular they are huge criticism is being directed towards them, the producers are relatively obscure to US and UK audiences so less attention is being given to them.
I'm not part of cancelculture so I'm not calling for Netflix to be cancelled, they made a stupid decision and need to rectify it that's all.
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Soldato
She was, and for adults it should probably be a bit troubling that that kind of thing is accepted. Maybe the 'sexy schoolgirl' thing is an artefact of most people being able to relate, as most people were once at school with someone that they found sexy. Or maybe its what happens when you try and make a video that appeals both to teenagers and adults. Either way its reason for being is hopefully quite different to 'Cuties', unless cuties is designed to appeal to people sexually after all.
As pointed out about the comparison doesn't work on lots of other levels as well - while Britney is wearing revealing clothing and dancing suggestively, to me it's much less brazenly sexual than some of the dancing in Cuties. There is also a massive difference between 16/18/however old Britney was, and 11 - I don't see how you can possibly compare the two ages. The 'story' element also changes things. I just think it isn't a comparable piece of media at all.
Well who is it for, and what does it matter who it's 'for'? Netflix advertised it to me (before I cancelled, partly because of this but mainly because I'd been meaning to cancel for a while due to watching more stuff on prime instead tbh), and I'm a man in my mid/late 20's. Whoever it's for it's still an issue that it seems to be promoting and normalising the sexualisation of young children.
It might actually be preferable if it was aimed at Middle aged men rather than young girls or mums or whoever it is apparently 'for' because at least then it wouldn't influence so many young minds and their responsible adults!
She was 16 at the time of that video. So it's OK for someone, who in their home country, is under the age of consent to make a sexed up video of being a school girl - who most the times are under the age of consent - but a coming of age film is porn? Either both are or they're not. To me 16 and 11 aren't much different. Both are basically children.
My guess is it's aimed mostly at girls, teens and above who feel they can relate to it. I don't think they made this film with Steve down the local in mind.
Talk about trying to bolt the doors after the horses have left - quite some time ago too. When I was in primary school the girls were copying what they saw Brittney and Christina do in their videos. This is nothing new. Only on the radio yesterday I heard someone complaining that their 13 year old daughter was walking around singing 'WAP'. This is nothing new it's just the first time it's been made into a film.
I've had to watch the trailer again to make sure I wasn't missing something glaringly obvious.
Maybe at 0:25-0:26 you have a girl with a finger in her mouth suggestively, other than that? I really am not seeing it.
I find it odd that nearly every girl I have shown this too doesn't see it as child pornography yet it seems to be mostly men that have an issue with it. My partner's response was "Well, yeah, that's what girls do at that age. They want to act older than they are". What are you scared of? That you're going to watch it and start fancying little girls? If this film was enough to make you do that then you had issues already.
As someone else said, there is a lot of projecting going on in this thread.
For what it's worth. I won't be watching it but not because I think it's child porn, it just looks like a film that I wouldn't find interesting and can't relate to.
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The difference with BS is that Cuties shows an 11 year old baring her breast, showing her bum, taking photos of her vagina using her uncles phone, several 10-11 year olds grabbing their crotches multiple times whilst dry humping the floor and "twerking" - If a man films an 11 year old girl doing these things in her bedroom over a webcam then the parents will want action taken, but if you call it a "film" then seemingly lots of folks are apparently OK with it.
The dancing alone would be pushing my personal limit of "morality" for what I would consider over-sexualising for 11 years olds but when you add in the nudity to I think it's too much. I realise that "art" needs to push boundaries, and that we've had nude images of kids long before this which were considered art and not something worse (Brook Shields nude photoshoot aged 10 for a modern example) but as a society we've moved to a position where the overwhelming majority believe "protect all children" and where any form of child sexualisation is now deemed as negative (even banning parents filming school plays etc), so it strikes me as nothing but hypocrisy that the same moralising "won't someone think of the children" types are seeming OK with a film like this.
So much drama on the fictionalisation of a legitimate, real life issue which ironically and sadly was attempting to vocalise the exact point people have taken issue with.
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When those from outside look in, they see an unknown world game for arrogant critique. For those on the inside, ignorant criticism is can be quite damaging.