If Big Navi is =3090 it will be £1000, maybe even £1200. I don't care as i'm not looking to spend more than around £400 anyway and those who think that's too high blame Nvidia, that's still £300 to £500 cheaper and i think AMD deserve halo pricing IMO, which are set by us, we allowed Nvidia to set these prices so we only have ourselves to blame if AMD have this much room to set £1000 GPU prices and still make the competition look overpriced.
-
Competitor rules
Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.
AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
- Thread starter Gregster
- Start date
- Status
You know what. we never let Intel get away with stupid prices, sure they charged them, £1600 for a 10 core Haswell-E, no one bought one, few bought the £800 8 core Haswell-E, with 4 core Hyper threaded CPU's consistently near £300 people hung on to their older CPU's for years.
Then Ryzen happened and everyone who was hanging onto their old CPU's upgraded.
How did Nvidia sell more £800 GTX Titan's than AMD sold £400 FASTER R9 290X? how did that happen? What is wrong with us? AMD gave us the Ryzen of the GPU world years ago, we rejected it.
Then Ryzen happened and everyone who was hanging onto their old CPU's upgraded.
How did Nvidia sell more £800 GTX Titan's than AMD sold £400 FASTER R9 290X? how did that happen? What is wrong with us? AMD gave us the Ryzen of the GPU world years ago, we rejected it.
Soldato
- Joined
- 21 Apr 2007
- Posts
- 2,651
R9 290x was a great card it ran a bit hot but there were plenty of after market solutions for that. As long as big navi has the performance it will be on my shortlist
Associate
- Joined
- 19 Jun 2017
- Posts
- 1,029
I think there's this implicit importance given to graphic card upgrades that ranks higher than cpu as a part..most of us would ensure that our graphics cards are up to date while relatively okay rocking CPUs from the last couple of generations..that explains the propensity to spend more on GPUs than CPUs
5% better than 3080 with 16GB of RAM at £600 and I'm there. That would be a decent upgrade at the right price at the right time historically. Sapphire or AMD own brand (whatever tf that looks like)
with a sprinkling of RT will do then one of my dear old 1080TIs is going to a loving new home.
Soldato
- Joined
- 21 Jul 2005
- Posts
- 21,107
- Location
- Officially least sunny location -Ronskistats
Soldato
- Joined
- 17 Aug 2003
- Posts
- 20,160
- Location
- Woburn Sand Dunes
Well, i guess because the titan got there first. That and AMD's first go at the titan wasnt brilliant (7990) and cost more than the titan. Then there's the fact the 290x ran hotter, used more juice, wasn't that much faster than the 780 at launch and was basically on par with the 970 for a long time after launch.
It took a long time for the 290x to mature, and until then there were alternatives that were all better in some respect, and that's ignoring the original titan.
Soldato
- Joined
- 21 Jul 2005
- Posts
- 21,107
- Location
- Officially least sunny location -Ronskistats
As long as AMD deliver a card that doesn't need to be underclocked / undervolted to work (poor 3rd party RTX owners) then it's a winner for me.I think most of us can all agree, the RTX is a shambles. Too hot, too much power draw and now crashing due to 3rd party overclocks. Following the paper launch you'd think things couldn't get any worse lol. Yet people are still pre-ordering the cards. Makes me chuckle.
Seconded.
You know the answer, its MARKETING plus being first to market plus the styling/branding. I had 3 290s and they weren't pretty cards and ran hot. Mate's son loved it when I gave him a card and
told him it was faster than a Titan (which it was when OC). The kid had heard of the Titan but didn't even know who AMD were, he did however remember the 9800 pro I gave him years previously. That's what mindshare gets you.
Soldato
- Joined
- 21 Jul 2005
- Posts
- 21,107
- Location
- Officially least sunny location -Ronskistats
I had a 290x. Had it for 5 years nearly 6.
I had an AIB 290 none X, best GPU i ever owned, it was a monster card.
Deleted member 87287
Deleted member 87287
As long as AMD deliver a card that doesn't need to be underclocked / undervolted to work (poor 3rd party RTX owners) then it's a winner for me.
Just heard about these problems today - a little late to the party. There’s even people on the nvidia thread saying it’s not an issue. Hilarious.
Soldato
- Joined
- 17 Aug 2003
- Posts
- 20,160
- Location
- Woburn Sand Dunes
Humbug, what's your point there?
You looking to spend £400 again? Didn’t you just spend over £300 upgrading recently?
I remember telling you just wait, but you was not having it
Soldato
- Joined
- 21 Jul 2005
- Posts
- 21,107
- Location
- Officially least sunny location -Ronskistats
I check in 2018 to see where the rx 580 would get me, it wasnt even a sidegrade lol.
I got a 1060 to check out VR and some other things before I put it in my server. This was done when I got the Vega56 on black friday sale for 299 with game bundle that I sold for £50.
The 290X was always faster than the GTX Titan. right on day one.
Soldato
- Joined
- 17 Aug 2003
- Posts
- 20,160
- Location
- Woburn Sand Dunes
I never said it wasnt faster than a titan. There's nothing in it however. What i did say was that it wasnt much faster than a 780 and your chart shows that.
Soldato
- Joined
- 21 Jul 2005
- Posts
- 21,107
- Location
- Officially least sunny location -Ronskistats
You looking to spend £400 again? Didn’t you just spend over £300 upgrading recently?
I remember telling you just wait, but you was not having it
Im telling you to return/cancel. You dont need the 3080 when you see navi
We will see, if it is as good as the hype train you are on says it is and my 3080 order has not arrived, then I may cancel and go AMD again on my G-Sync monitor and g-sync tv. Lol. It will need to either be quite a bit cheaper for similar performance or quite a bit better performance at the same price, otherwise it makes no sense for me to lose out on g-sync.Im telling you to return/cancel. You dont need the 3080 when you see navi
I still got the RX 580 in my rig, but just fancied updating my sig prematurely. It is paid for after all.
Zero chance of me cancelling though. I got it for £649.99
What you said was this:
In the same way the GTX Titan was even more "not much faster than the 780" which also came later.
At the time Nvidia had the GTX 770 and the next card up was the GTX Titan, the 290X beat it, Nvidia later reacted with the 780TI and 780, the 780TI was still only 4% faster than the 290X.
- Status