AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

jonneymendoza · 28 Sep 2020 at 11:52

TNA said:
Lol. Seriously not sure if serious.

That picture is a bloody slide from 2010, it even says so on it! For starters it says 40nm, that should be a huge give away even if you did not see any other info. Haha.

Let's just say I had that exact card and specs about a decade ago

I actually have that card about 1 meter away from me right now in a box

DId u manage to cop a 3080?

TNA · 28 Sep 2020 at 11:54

jonneymendoza said:
DId u manage to cop a 3080?

Still waiting for it to arrive. I did order it within less than 90 minutes of it going on sale once the site finally loaded. Hopefully it arrives before Cyberpunk 2077

LePhuronn · 28 Sep 2020 at 11:59

Grim5 said:
Big Navi specs leaked, Ampere is dead!

https://mobile.twitter.com/3DCenter_org/status/1309867069798842370

Beautiful, glad I saved my money now. And more evidence that Nvidia made a mistake going with Samsung 8nm. Why bother with a puny 8nm? Go 5 times bigger and make it 40!

LePhuronn · 28 Sep 2020 at 12:00

TNA said:
Grim5. He is used to posting crap, nothing new there

At least this time he was getting in on the fun.

TNA · 28 Sep 2020 at 12:01

LePhuronn said:
At least this time he was getting in on the fun.

Jacky60 · 28 Sep 2020 at 12:06

TNA said:
He likes to come here and get his LeFury...ON!!

Lol!

Jacky60 · 28 Sep 2020 at 12:06

Wulfster said:
The guys a real bundle of joy isn’t he?

Wulf

+1

LePhuronn · 28 Sep 2020 at 12:10

TNA said:
He likes to come here and get his LeFury...ON!!

Maybe I should do a RTX on/off self-meme...

Nutella33 · 28 Sep 2020 at 12:11

0h_no_not_again said:
AMD are in quite a bit of debt still

No, they are not. Debt to equity ratio is 0.15, they have less than 500m in debt left from the high of $5bn ten years ago and cash reserves of close to 2bn. They paid off 500m of debt in a single quarter last year.

humbug · 28 Sep 2020 at 12:15

0h_no_not_again · 28 Sep 2020 at 12:43

Nutella33 said:
No, they are not. Debt to equity ratio is 0.15, they have less than 500m in debt left from the high of $5bn ten years ago and cash reserves of close to 2bn. They paid off 500m of debt in a single quarter last year.

Urrr, I stand corrected. **** that is impressive...

Darujhistan · 28 Sep 2020 at 13:05

Lokken86 said:
Surely we've moved on from 6gb now..

Yould think so, 6GB is pretty pathetic if that's truly what the third tier card has, there are 570's 80's and 90's at £150-£200 for 8GB and they're years old. This is almost as poor as the 1060's NV sold with 3GB. I hammer NV for cheaping out on VRAM, which they do and if this leak is true then 6GB for the 70 card which will be much more expensive than £200 is a step backwards and lousy steal from NV's playbook.

BigBANGtheory · 28 Sep 2020 at 13:10

I’m actually quite encouraged by some of the rumoured pricing of biggest of the big Navi anything over £700 will require some serious GPU horse power

Firegod · 28 Sep 2020 at 13:12

As long as AMD deliver a card that doesn't need to be underclocked / undervolted to work (poor 3rd party RTX owners) then it's a winner for me.

I think most of us can all agree, the RTX is a shambles. Too hot, too much power draw and now crashing due to 3rd party overclocks. Following the paper launch you'd think things couldn't get any worse lol. Yet people are still pre-ordering the cards. Makes me chuckle.

Phate · 28 Sep 2020 at 13:27

1 month today.

Firegod · 28 Sep 2020 at 13:30

Phate said:
1 month today.

LePhuronn · 28 Sep 2020 at 13:44

Firegod said:
As long as AMD deliver a card that doesn't need to be underclocked / undervolted to work (poor 3rd party RTX owners)

Don't go throwing that one around, Polaris, Vega and Navi 1 all benefitted greatly from a not-insignificant undervolt to get them to "work"

I would say it's nice to see the shoe on the other foot though, but the Nvidia faithful will just pass it off as somebody else's fault so it's not going to register in the collective mindshare.

Firegod · 28 Sep 2020 at 13:51

LePhuronn said:
Don't go throwing that one around, Polaris, Vega and Navi 1 all benefitted greatly from a not-insignificant undervolt to get them to "work"

I would say it's nice to see the shoe on the other foot though, but the Nvidia faithful will just pass it off as somebody else's fault so it's not going to register in the collective mindshare.

See I own a Vega64 (Asus ROG Strix OC) and it's fine. I don't underclock / undervolt it. But yes you are right about the Vega and as you say, it's nice the shoe being on the other foot but just to reiterate, I don't have to underclock / undervolt my Vega64 for it to work. It won't CTD if I leave it alone - if you know what I mean. Whereas some of these overclocked RTX cards are not working out of the box which was my point.

humbug · 28 Sep 2020 at 13:59

Because Nvidia are now also pushing them right to the limits, AIB's are trying to get more out of them to differentiate themselves and they have nothing left to give.

Nutella33 · 28 Sep 2020 at 14:01

0h_no_not_again said:
Urrr, I stand corrected. **** that is impressive...

To be clear I think the rest of your post is pretty spot on and we shouldn't expect budget pricing for AMD's top range but they have really turned their financials around. They paid off almost a 1bn of their debt in 2019 whilst increasing their cash reserves by 500m. Lisa ain't CEO of the year for nothing.