Keeping up with the Markles

I think the fact the family are harbouring a pedophile is probably a bigger tell. They could get away with sweeping Nazis under the rug and pretending that they weren’t involved but now the internet exists and they don’t influence the media like they used to.

Well, if I take off my hatred glasses I have to admit they arent harbouring a paedophile. Nobody under the age of puberty was involved, thus it literally cannot have been paedophilia no matter how much that drum might want to be banged. Certainly still very wrong but not paedophilia.
 
Well, if I take off my hatred glasses I have to admit they arent harbouring a paedophile. Nobody under the age of puberty was involved, thus it literally cannot have been paedophilia no matter how much that drum might want to be banged. Certainly still very wrong but not paedophilia.

Epstein has been credibly accused of bringing in under age girls to his island for sex. Andrew used to hang out with him and he’s been seen with the girls....

He won’t go and speak to the fbi about it.
 
Epstein has been credibly accused of bringing in under age girls to his island for sex. Andrew used to hang out with him and he’s been seen with the girls....

He won’t go and speak to the fbi about it.

Still doesnt mean that Andrew indulged in paedophilia. Paedophilia isnt merely underage, paedophilia is prepubescent. Thats literally the definition of it. What Andrew appears to have done was MASSIVELY wrong but it was no more paedophilia than it was necrophilia.
 
To me, it seems somewhat cowardly for Meghan and Harry to be conducting a media campaign against people who aren't allowed to speak up in their own defence. Going after the media is one thing. Going after the royal family is a very different thing.

Theres nothing stopping them speaking up in their own defence, they just know if they do, they lose the illusion of Royalty. It’s pure cowardice and because she’s right and they are wrong.
 
Yes. Gender has nothing to do with this?

So you genuinely believe that domestic violence can't happen to successful people, that people in those relationships never rationalise the position to the extent they support and defend it, or that they will never take their partners view in a conflict with their support network?

Because those are the myths you've just repeated as a dismissal.

Don't get me wrong, I hope I'm wrong, I wouldn't wish such a situation on anyone. Also, if I'm not wrong, I don't blame any of them for the situation. Blame isn't helpful, it's about understanding and helping people instead.

The interview is very interesting though, because it's put several clear falsehoods forward, and several further unspecified and unsubstantiated claims that will be subject to much closer scrutiny. It's a real insight into the nature of both of them.
 
Harry has served in Afghan for 10+ years. I think he’s big and brave enough to be making his own decisions at this point.

What evidence have you got that shows he has been manipulated and isn’t making these decisions himself? Or are you just needlessly projecting your own abuse onto him?

Because he has very articulately and reasonably explained why he wanted out. Do you think he’s lying and being forced to say it? Do you doubt the trauma he claims to have from his mothers death whilst being hounded by the same people who are hounding him?
A strong and brave man would have challenged and put a stop to any talk from a family member with regards to the colour of his unborn baby if it was put across in a racist way also he would not have gone and told his fragile wife who was struggling with suicidal thoughts at the time and instead shielded her from such comments.
 
No you miss the point, I think she’s telling the truth over you.

On what basis are you concluding that when there is no rule currently to allow for a title to be given?

Harry has served in Afghan for 10+ years.

I think you'll find tours are a bit shorter than 10 years! In fact his first tour was cut short thanks to media coverage and his second was as a pilot and they tend to do short 4 month tours.
 
She mentioned it in her one to one then Harry was asked about it which he confirmed...But said he won’t disclose who said it and the exact conversation.

nonetheless seems disingenuous; if they wanted their truth to be believed, they should have presented all, as a couple,
they are not like independant witnesses who haven't conferred (are they?)
the chosen format conveniently extends the broadcast too/advertising revenue (for those with the attention span to sit it out - wonder what viewing figures will show)
 
Wow, if they have shown courage then I, like many others, deserve a medal for starting a mixed race relationship back in the early 90's when views were not so liberal as today.

Yea, because the entire world would have had an opinion on what you said or did and the tabloid press would have hounded you to within an inch of your life. :rolleyes:
 
Being charged for sex crimes is extremely important to be public. So that would be a no, he isn't being charged with sex crimes.

Lots of people do things and don’t get charged for them. Just because he’s not yet been charged doesn’t mean he is innocent. Epstein ended up dead.
 
Yea, because the entire world would have had an opinion on what you said or did and the tabloid press would have hounded you to within an inch of your life. :rolleyes:

That's kind of his choice tbh... they're free to step away from the spotlight if they want to, what they don't get to do is to actively court publicity and then moan about the publicity they don't like/can't control.
 
A strong and brave man would have challenged and put a stop to any talk from a family member with regards to the colour of his unborn baby if it was put across in a racist way also he would not have gone and told his fragile wife who was struggling with suicidal thoughts at the time and instead shielded her from such comments.

How do you know he didn’t put a stop to it? Seems like he’s been strong enough to get out of that toxic environment and is now clearly articulating why he had to do so, both for himself and his family, and people are attacking him for it.

We’ve even got people like Dolph here claiming that he’s got some kind of insight into the situation and that Harry has been so brainwashed that the credible and very reasonable actions he’s taken are all a form of coercive control that his wife has managed to initiate because he’s now a domestic abuse victim.


So you genuinely believe that domestic violence can't happen to successful people, that people in those relationships never rationalise the position to the extent they support and defend it, or that they will never take their partners view in a conflict with their support network?

Because those are the myths you've just repeated as a dismissal.

Don't get me wrong, I hope I'm wrong, I wouldn't wish such a situation on anyone. Also, if I'm not wrong, I don't blame any of them for the situation. Blame isn't helpful, it's about understanding and helping people instead.

The interview is very interesting though, because it's put several clear falsehoods forward, and several further unspecified and unsubstantiated claims that will be subject to much closer scrutiny. It's a real insight into the nature of both of them.
 
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