BMW and M Power Owners

chanjy said:
Struggle to see how you’d do it without the seats coming down

Same as in a saloon
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I think strictly speaking, a saloon is defined by the fact that the passenger and luggage compartments are separated.

The fact a lot of more modern saloons can drop the rear seats makes things a bit more confused though.
 
chanjy said:
Struggle to see how you’d do it without the seats coming down

Same as in a saloon
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Passenger compartment in a hatchback is seperated from the luggage compartment by some folding seats and a flimsy parcel shelf you can take out.

In a saloon it's an entirely seperate compartment.
 
chanjy said:
Struggle to see how you’d do it without the seats coming down

Same as in a saloon
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Kenai said:
I think strictly speaking, a saloon is defined by the fact that the passenger and luggage compartments are separated.

The fact a lot of more modern saloons can drop the rear seats makes things a bit more confused though.
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^ this. I'd be "happy" to leave my work bag in a saloon with a totally separated luggage area versus a hatchback whereby you can access the boot by breaking the rear glass and removing the parcel shelf.

An exec director at my firm had his 3 series estate broken into in London. Unfortunately they don't teach these thieves class as they ditched his £3k Papworth briefcase and made off with his 600 quid encrypted work laptop.
 
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Haha I think we are all clear now on what constitutes a 'door' but still haggling over the exact defintion.

dLockers said:
^ this. I'd be "happy" to leave my work back in a saloon with a totally separated luggage area versus a hatchback whereby you can access the boot by breaking the rear glass and removing the parcel shelf.

An exec director at my firm had his 3 series estate broken into in London. Unfortunately they don't teach these thieves class as they ditched his £3k Papworth briefcase and made off with his 600 quid encrypted work laptop.
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For the sake of argument though, a thief could just as easily break a passenger window and release the back seats to get your work bag.
 
chanjy said:
For the sake of argument though, a thief could just as easily break a passenger window and release the back seats to get your work bag.
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The executive saloons I'm familiar with are built to prevent this by putting the seat release catches in the boot as well.
 
dLockers said:
The executive saloons I'm familiar with are built to prevent this by putting the seat release catches in the boot as well.
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Yes - my saloon rear seats are only foldable by way of the release catch in the boot. You cannot fold the seats - or even tell it has folding seats - from inside the passenger compartment.
 
Havana_UK said:
The M3 threw up an EML yesterday on the way home. Took it into my local garage who did a quick code read (misfire on cylinder 6 apparently) and cleared the code, but it came up again on the way home today.

Now booked into local BMW dealership under warranty to be sorted (I assume it's a coil pack or similar). Apparently they'll only replace the failed part under warranty, so if it is the coil pack the other 5 won't be changed.

What's Motors' advice? Change all 6 whilst at it (and hopefully get it for parts cost only since the labour for diagnosing and changing one of them will effectively cover all 6), or just do the one?
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Short update...after a few days of not really using the car apart from a couple of school runs the EML had gone off. Car was driving fine (I'd not noticed any issues myself even with the EML on), and I had the need to make a longer trip about an hour each way when the car behaved faultlessly. I then went climbing on Thursday night, still no EML, car running fine, but on the way back it crapped its pants, dashboard lights up, "drivetrain malfunction, full performance not available, continue driving at moderate speed, contact your BMW service center" on the iDrive, cut power completely went into limp mode and is definitely missing at least one cylinder. It sounds like a bag of spanners on cold start and vibrates away like mad at idle!

I'd planned to cancel the dealership appointment the following morning, so pleased I hadn't already done so! It's in the dealership tomorrow so hopefully now it's not an intermittent problem should be straightforward for them to fix.
 
dLockers said:
The executive saloons I'm familiar with are built to prevent this by putting the seat release catches in the boot as well.
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[TW]Fox said:
Yes - my saloon rear seats are only foldable by way of the release catch in the boot. You cannot fold the seats - or even tell it has folding seats - from inside the passenger compartment.
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Oh! Fair enough... I stand corrected!
 
Some, if not all, Audi saloon's have the rear seat catches on the seats themselves, my A4 for example and the current A6. Are they not all executive cars?
 
cuke2u said:
Some, if not all, Audi saloon's have the rear seat catches on the seats themselves, my A4 for example and the current A6. Are they not all executive cars?
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Well it seems you have escalated me to purveyor of all things that are executive and saloons, so no. :p

I mean I did clearly caveat what I said with:
dLockers said:
The executive saloons I'm familiar with
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On this topic (sort of), my 7 Series has an unusual feature I've never seen before. You can disable the boot central locking, via a switch in the armrest, to protect your luggage etc.

The idea is, you lock the boot from the armrest switch, remove the metal part of the key, lock the armrest, and then give the main fob to a valet person, meaning they can't access the boot (without breaking open the armrest, anyway).

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Robbo said:
On this topic (sort of), my 7 Series has an unusual feature I've never seen before. You can disable the boot central locking, via a switch in the armrest, to protect your luggage etc.

The idea is, you lock the boot from the armrest switch, remove the metal part of the key, lock the armrest, and then give the main fob to a valet person, meaning they can't access the boot (without breaking open the armrest, anyway).
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This is the most on topic post in the last page as it's actually about a BMW :D

Like the idea, although I do wonder how often that feature was ever used, sounds like a right faff!
 
Robbo said:
On this topic (sort of), my 7 Series has an unusual feature I've never seen before. You can disable the boot central locking, via a switch in the armrest, to protect your luggage etc.

The idea is, you lock the boot from the armrest switch, remove the metal part of the key, lock the armrest, and then give the main fob to a valet person, meaning they can't access the boot (without breaking open the armrest, anyway).

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Jaguar have this - it is called Valet mode but you do it via a PIN Number on the touchscreen.
 
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