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Personally I would say it just wasn't the right exercise for weight loss. I don't really understand weight training as a part of a plan specifically to lose weight? That's what I would do to gain weight. When the gyms closed last year my weight gradually dropped. When they reopened you can see my weight gradually go up...

For me, I cycled everyday for an hour to hour and a half, at a high intensity level (burning around 700 to 1,000 cals) and it did wonders for my weight loss.
 
AndyCr15 said:
Personally I would say it just wasn't the right exercise for weight loss. I don't really understand weight training as a part of a plan specifically to lose weight? That's what I would do to gain weight. When the gyms closed last year my weight gradually dropped. When they reopened you can see my weight gradually go up...

For me, I cycled everyday for an hour to hour and a half, at a high intensity level (burning around 700 to 1,000 cals) and it did wonders for my weight loss.
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Didn't go weight training to loose weight. After I dropped to 70kgs I looked like I'd been drained from the top down. So I start weight training to gain a bit of muscle and shape, hence I hover between 72 & 74 kgs.

I don't take supplements or use protein powder. Just eat a little more protein than I did when I was chunky.

HIT interval training is probably the best form of exercise to help with weight loss. As the constant changing of pace confuses your body and stops it's conserving energy. Which is what it does if stick a single pace.

But it's still easier not to stick the food in your mouth in the first.

I mean an hour of intense cycling to burn just 700 calories isn't something that would appeal to your average overweight, sedentary person. Not to begin with anyway. Particularly when you equate that 700 calories to something like a Big Mac and small fries at 770 calories.
 
Resistance training encourages the body to hold on to muscle and bone mineral density when you're dieting. Fat-free mass is metabolically expensive and the body is quite happy with breaking down tissue into amino acids for fuel when food is scarce, so if you lift then it should be year-round regardless of body-composition goals.

Some forms of exercise obviously burn more calories than others but fat loss for everyone other than elite athletes who train full time is almost always a diet thing, and it's definitely the case that things like doing loads of cardio can create greater hunger which then leads to eating more and negating the caloric expenditure of the exercise.
 
barmyllama said:
But it's still easier not to stick the food in your mouth in the first.

I mean an hour of intense cycling to burn just 700 calories isn't something that would appeal to your average overweight, sedentary person. Not to begin with anyway. Particularly when you equate that 700 calories to something like a Big Mac and small fries at 770 calories.
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But that's personal choice really. Is other to exercise and easy what I want.

Also, to me this is part of the problem, people want an easy way to do it, not the best way. So many people noticed me rapidly losing weight and asked how I did it. You could see the disappointment when I basically said 'through lots of hard work'. There are other benefits of exercising aside listing weight. I personally would recommend it as the way to do it, but again, it's personal preference isn't it :)
 
AndyCr15 said:
But that's personal choice really. Is other to exercise and easy what I want.

Also, to me this is part of the problem, people want an easy way to do it, not the best way. So many people noticed me rapidly losing weight and asked how I did it. You could see the disappointment when I basically said 'through lots of hard work'. There are other benefits of exercising aside listing weight. I personally would recommend it as the way to do it, but again, it's personal preference isn't it :)
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I agree.

The main point I was making was excerise isn't the best way to loose weight against eating less calories.

For people, like me, that enjoy a takeaways, snacks and beer etc. 5/2 fasting allows the best of both worlds if you can stick to it. It also means I don't have to spend 10 hours a week burning off all the beer and pies.
 
barmyllama said:
For people, like me, that enjoy a takeaways, snacks and beer etc. 5/2 fasting allows the best of both worlds if you can stick to it. It also means I don't have to spend 10 hours a week burning off all the beer and pies.
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I think that's the thing, if you don't enjoy the exercise then what's the point (if the pure goal is weight loss vs being healthier/fitter).

I'm like Andy in that i will exercise a lot which allows me to eat more rubbish food, but that's mainly because i enjoy the exercise element a lot.
 
Martynt74 said:
I think that's the thing, if you don't enjoy the exercise then what's the point (if the pure goal is weight loss vs being healthier/fitter).

I'm like Andy in that i will exercise a lot which allows me to eat more rubbish food, but that's mainly because i enjoy the exercise element a lot.
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I think for me, once I became used to exercising regularly and became conditioned to it (as in, not being so unfit that my body really suffered trying to recover after exercise), the positives switched largely to being mental. I don't really chase numbers anymore, I just do my routine and work the numbers gradually up to maintain a level of effort, etc. However the time put aside to exercise gives me free time to think things over, and alongside the endorphin hit I really do think it has kept my mental health better than it otherwise would be. Not to mention any group based exercise or club can be a nice place to chat and make friends in what I consider to be a level and neutral place. I haven't felt much, if any, social point scoring or judgement or the like, and I enjoy that atmosphere. That comes down to my own mind gremlins though!

Nice to not worry about watching what I eat too much as well, even if I am sensible :D.

It is possible to go way to far in the other direction and do too much exercise though. It really is addictive for some.
 
AndyCr15 said:
Personally I would say it just wasn't the right exercise for weight loss. I don't really understand weight training as a part of a plan specifically to lose weight? That's what I would do to gain weight.
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I think we're into this difference of weight loss vs fat loss.

I've always had my most success losing body fat with weight/resistance training, as mentioned above, cardio workouts leave me craving food and tend to binge and lose control more than when i've done resistance work.

That's just what works for me though.
 
meliscanan88 said:
Hi everybody! Which app do u prefer? I've been on a diet since March 4th but nothing change
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For what?

Most of us use My Fitness Pal to log calories but not many people follow a diet app or anything like that. If you've had no change in 6 months it suggests you're eating too much.
 
Bit of a milestone day for me today. After two years, I deleted my food tracking details from Cronometer as I feel it's time to get on and eat without weighing and recording every single thing. It'll be easy for the next few weeks as I'm living on 100% Huel so will be very difficult to overeat. But I've got a good grip on good foods and bad foods so it should be straightforward. Currently at about 82kg, don't know if it's possible but I'd like to be 72kg by Christmas.
 
ic1male said:
Bit of a milestone day for me today. After two years, I deleted my food tracking details from Cronometer as I feel it's time to get on and eat without weighing and recording every single thing. It'll be easy for the next few weeks as I'm living on 100% Huel so will be very difficult to overeat. But I've got a good grip on good foods and bad foods so it should be straightforward. Currently at about 82kg, don't know if it's possible but I'd like to be 72kg by Christmas.
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been on 50-75% Huel myself for around 6 years. Tried all the flavours but the vanilla is the only one I can truly say I like :D are you on the black Huel?
 
Rannoch said:
been on 50-75% Huel myself for around 6 years. Tried all the flavours but the vanilla is the only one I can truly say I like :D are you on the black Huel?
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I’m going to mix it up - white vanilla for breakfast and black vanilla for dinner. Got five boxes of the little flavour sachets so there will be some variety. Then one of the savoury meals for tea.
 
adle said:
Hi
New to the Forum just looking for some information to help lose weight i.e any good quick exercise routines or diets ?
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Fasting. It's actually healthy for you too. That is the fastest and easiest method. I have fastest the longest time for with water and supplements only (vitamins and electrolytes) zero calories for 3 days then broke it on the fourth then fasted again for 3 straight days.

I have also fasted for 3 days on another occasion then started a vegetable juice diet for 2 more days to make it a liquid only fast for 5 days where no calories were consumed on the first 3 days.

To keep it off requires a long term change. There is no point in you getting the weight off going back to old habits and then putting it back on because people who do that tend to put more weight on than before they started. So you are going to end up fatter again if you don't make permanent changes to your diet and physical activity.

You can have a 6 pack through diet alone but a good diet coupled with a good physical routine will keep you healthy. This doesn't mean you need to do hours and hours per day. I'd say 30 mins of intense cardio is enough daily. If it's not intense then you want to do 1-2 hours daily.

That's the major problem. Most folk are sat behind desks 9-5. Sat behind the wheel of a car for an hour or two or on a train and then sat on a couch when home. Humans even as little as 100 years ago would walk for hours on end every day. They didn't have cars or public transport.


AndyCr15 said:
Personally I would say it just wasn't the right exercise for weight loss. I don't really understand weight training as a part of a plan specifically to lose weight? That's what I would do to gain weight. When the gyms closed last year my weight gradually dropped. When they reopened you can see my weight gradually go up...

For me, I cycled everyday for an hour to hour and a half, at a high intensity level (burning around 700 to 1,000 cals) and it did wonders for my weight loss.
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Wrong. Muscles weigh more than fat yes. But muscles also consume more energy than fat. So someone who has a large muscle mass consumes more calories by sitting still compared to someone the same weight with less muscle mass. There is a difference between fat loss and weight loss. Most people mean fat loss when they say weight loss.

Just because something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it's wrong or again dieting to lose weight is apparently for the lazy is what you said last time. Which was lolworthy and again you have a false idea of how muscle mass works to keep fat low.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/screw-cardio-four-complexes-for-a-shredded-physique
 
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Diet over. End of June to start of November with a 2 week break in the middle. Not the biggest deficit or fastest rate of loss I’ve subjected myself too but I wanted to take this one a bit easier.

Weight lost = 8.1kg

Decrease in measurements =
Chest: 7cm
2” above navel: 11cm
Navel: 11cm
2” below navel: 8cm
Widest part of hips: 8cm

Pretty happy with the look as far as abs back, veins… not the leanest I’ve ever been but 2020/21 left me starting at the highest bf I’d been at in a long time plus being semi-detained over the lockdowns. Decent base to maintain weight from for a bit before I start actively gaining weight slowly again.

Also happy none of my lifts really died a horrible death - only real thing that suffered was pressing, e.g. bench working weights went down 2.5kg but had to move it 7cm further so not surprising. Looking forward to feeling strong again vs just clinging on to numbers. :cry:
 
Somnambulist said:
Diet over. End of June to start of November with a 2 week break in the middle. Not the biggest deficit or fastest rate of loss I’ve subjected myself too but I wanted to take this one a bit easier.

Weight lost = 8.1kg

Decrease in measurements =
Chest: 7cm
2” above navel: 11cm
Navel: 11cm
2” below navel: 8cm
Widest part of hips: 8cm

Pretty happy with the look as far as abs back, veins… not the leanest I’ve ever been but 2020/21 left me starting at the highest bf I’d been at in a long time plus being semi-detained over the lockdowns. Decent base to maintain weight from for a bit before I start actively gaining weight slowly again.

Also happy none of my lifts really died a horrible death - only real thing that suffered was pressing, e.g. bench working weights went down 2.5kg but had to move it 7cm further so not surprising. Looking forward to feeling strong again vs just clinging on to numbers. :cry:
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2.5kg loss is nothing tbh on a big lift like bench. I'm sure you will gain that back within a month. personally i've changed tact and in future will be going for more reps rather than more weight. i find going really heavy too stressful and just leads to more injuries over time. once i'm up to a crazy number of reps then i'll look to increase weight.
 
I know that’s why I’m not bothered about it. Would be unrealistic to expect zero degradation on a diet.

Never had an issues benching heavy. The only injuries I’ve ever had lifting are turning a bad crick in my neck from sleeping funny into a full blown tear of a neck muscle overhead pressing because I was too dumb to rest it which was years ago, and some mild elbow tendinitis from isolation work, which I fixed by taking the time to execute the exercises properly with appropriate loads and paying attention to lines of force matching joint angles (and doing some grip/forearm work - ho ho).
 
Weight loss was going well back in July combined with calorie tracking, skipping and running, then early August had some shoulder/arm/rib pain develop. Had a few doctors appointments and went through the motions of being told to take paracetomal/ibuprofen, 'it'll go away in a few weeks', then 6 weeks later being put on a 3 month wait for a physio referral and Naproxen which made me so sick I had to stop two days later.

Same day I stopped the Naproxen I paid for a private Osteopath who quickly found the issue (nerve compression, desk posture issue and sleeping position) and has been getting me back to full health over the last 6/7 weeks along with intense manipulations and daily mobility work.

Sort of back to normal but in a catch 22 that work is so hectic, have barely a moment to focus on exercise to just sticking with basic calorie tracking until things die down in the new year.

The daily allowance of 1700 cals makes me sad but aiming for half a kilo loss per week based on lowest activity level and my height/weight.
 
nlel1975 said:
It’s these digital weighing scales and you can download the free app that works with it...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YFS6GXB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Well my scales started to malfunction and I contacted Renpho in China. They requested I send a video of the issue then they’d send a replacement or refund me.

So I uploaded a video to YouTube and sent them a link to it after which they informed me they could only refund me. Amazon are responsible for fulfilling orders in the UK.

So I’ll have a refund in 3 to 5 days and in the meantime I’ve ordered another one, this time I’ve gone for the USB rechargeable version rather then the AAA battery version I had originally.
 
Given myself a target to lose a stone by the end of January. If I don't do that I'll give myself a slap even though Christmas is involved.
 
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