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Yeah.... "peacekeeping"
Quite a biased view of events, for reference Yanukovych wasn't overthrown because he wanted closer ties to Russia, closer Russian ties to Russia was one of his election promises. He was overthrown because he refused to sign the membership deal offered by the EU (also one of his election promises) because he wanted to join the customs union of Russia/Kazakhstan/Belarus instead. Which in addition to being against what the people wanted was also proof that he was either corrupt or insane lol.So to summarise some points for you all.
Elected Ukraine president at the time wanted closer ties to Russia in 2014.
2014 protests happened, overthrowing the elected president at the time. (sponsored protests you never know?)
Ukraine imposed restrictions on Russian language with new government.
East Ukraine rightly unhappy with this and created some republics.
Minsk agreement drawn up because of the violence
EU / Nato should declare they have no interest in Ukraine joining these organisations.
U.S would not allow missiles on their door step during the Cold War. Similar issue here.
It wasn't right what happened in 2014. But you don't get to hear much of this side.
Too bad our stupid UK government and opposition and media doesn't look back more than the last year when it comes to geo politics.
NATO should have just created a new form of membership especially for Ukraine to prevent all this.
Quite a biased view of events, for reference Yanukovych wasn't overthrown because he wanted closer ties to Russia, closer Russian ties to Russia was one of his election promises. He was overthrown because he refused to sign the membership deal offered by the EU (also one of his election promises) because he wanted to join the customs union of Russia/Kazakhstan/Belarus instead. Which in addition to being against what the people wanted was also proof that he was either corrupt or insane lol.
NATO should have just created a new form of membership especially for Ukraine to prevent all this.
‘Peacekeeping’ mission
So now we just need one incident and it all kicks off big time.
Quite the de-escalation.
Wow, you really do love being in that great Egyptian river, de-nilePer West/Ukraine Russian troops have been in Donbass since 2014. What has changed? All fighting in Donbass in 2014 was Ukraine vs Russian army. Per NATO/Ukraine. What has changed once again?
Wow, you really do love being in that great Egyptian river, de-nile
The sad thing is that you're completely right, given how penny focused Ryanair is I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Ryanair had an exec meeting on the subject where they basically said: "Well, diverting will reduce risk but cost £x per flight, but MA never got any blowback for flying through a missile range, so worst case scenario we sue Putin for a new plane" xDMoney. That is it in a nutshell.
You don't mobilise nearly half your army along the border of a non hostile nation as part of an "exercise" no nation in history has ever done that. You do it for two reaosns, either you plan to invade or you plan to use the threat of invasion to extort your victim (I.E agree to never join NATO or it's the blitzkrieg for you). This is why they should be sanctioned now with either additional sanctions if they invade or sanctions removed if they withdraw.
But was there thousands upon thousands of troops, tanks, artillery, planes and field hospitals surrounding the rest of Ukraine at the same time?
606 total posts, 388 in this thread, certainly a very strange posting history.Wow, you really do love being in that great Egyptian river, de-nile
But was there thousands upon thousands of troops, artillery, planes and field hospitals surrounding the rest of Ukraine at the same time?
HALIFAX, Nova Scotia – The Russian government has deployed thousands of armored vehicles and troops into Ukraine to support separatist rebels in the war-torn country's eastern region, Ukraine's top defense official says, despite repeated assertions from Moscow of minimal military involvement there.
"It's a real army. They have continuous inflow of munitions," Pavlo Klimkin, the Ukrainian defense minister, told a small group of reporters on the sidelines of an international security conference here last weekend.
And not just a few soldiers. A day after the interview was published, US General Ben Hodges said in Berlin that the US military was working on the assumption of 12,000 Russian troops in the region.