Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Seriously I’ll say this one more time, back it up.

A glib to go with your constant bootlicking of Russia's illegal & inhumane actions but if you're getting that defensive then maybe you are.

russia cant now because ukraine would join with nato straight away.

Yes... because it impacts Russia's (sic Putin's) ambitions of a new Russian Empire.
 
Lol @ ****wit Americans just saying hand it over baby.... The mind boggles at this moment in time.

I do wonder what the worlds reaction would be if Putin did drop a small yield Nuke in the Ukraine. Its not required in terms of military gain but more "dont F with me "

It's probably the way things will go down if they do go that route.

What would nato do? Technically its nuclear war? We don't have much left on the table apart from nuclear war.

Only other thing is.. More sanctions?
 
Lol, purleeeze...

How many different narratives have they given so far about why they weren't even building up their forces, or going in to Ukraine, or only going into the seperatist areas...no-one rightly believes a word Putins regime says at the minute

exactly lol.

It was only what - a week or two ago, when western leaders were appealing to Russia not to invade and to pull their troops back. The response at the time was “it’s hysteria by the west” “it’s fabrication” “it’s all misinformation” “there are no troops or invasion force”

Yet 7 days later here we are, who the hell would be willing to trust anything Putin says right now? These are his actions and the Ukrainians must fight with all they have.
 
The actions where he just invaded a sovereign nation to take it for himself, yea



A: The US didn't want to own Iraq after

after securing the oil fields ?

Let's see how Russian tactics change now they've had a severe bloody nose on their first few attempts

Of course they will change if nothing comes of the peace talks, I said this myself days ago and it was most others here who felt no it was just Russia losing the war and incapable of penetrating the capitol and that rhetoric is still echoed here.
 
My concern is we are back Putin into a corner, apart from an apology from Putin and a full retreat (never gonna happen) I don't see a way out for him

Feels like he's sat in his basement looking his intrusion book for how to fire nukes at the west right now
 
I don't see it at all, it's getting overplayed.
He didn't even bombard the towns before going in, this saves civilian lives and puts his own troops more at risk(Remember when America liberated Iraq with shock and awe ?).
He isn't going to fire a nuke into the capitol after sending his troops to surround it.
He also initiated peace talks.

That's very considerate of him.

By your recommendations I will of course look favourably on Putin if he wishes to invade and conquer my country. Barely trashing the place at all over there.
 
So from what we have seen so far most of the Tanks, APC's are old (30 years) + i bet the nukes they have threatened probably don't even work properly.

I do however fear that Ukraine is not out of the woods yet, he's getting desperate and now using thermobaric weapons and iskander missile (they can use nuclear payload). I do have to question why he's offering the ukrainian civilians safe passage and pulling his troops back, if i have to guess if talks don't go to planned he will probably use artillery of Kiev "if i can't have it no one can attitude". And with sanctions now in place we are on a knife edge of someone (madman) who has nothing else to loose.
 
As soon as you arm someone, they become a soldier and will be shot at. Its a dangerous strategy, but needs must in the absolute worst situations.
They are not in the worst of situations it’s a bad one but Palestinians have had it much worse and so have Middle Easterns.
 
That's very considerate of him.

By your recommendations I will of course look favourably on Putin if he wishes to invade and conquer my country. Barely trashing the place at all over there.


I didn't ask you to look at him in any particular way. Any lust you have for him is your own and not in any way have you been groomed by me.
 
I think the situation is really starting to worry some people. Weird atmosphere at work this morning and overheard a few people discussing it.

A little stunned I think. Although I think people understand the choices. In the end it's a choice between letting someone bully you or not.
 
what there is more sanctions that can be done? whats left sanction wise? thought swift cut off was the final straw?

There are more sanctions, for example not all banks have been cut off from SWIFT etc.

But the next step up is a full embargo of the Russian state, a la North Korea
 
So from what we have seen so far most of the Tanks, APC's are old (30 years) + i bet the nukes they have threatened probably don't even work properly.

I do however fear that Ukraine is not out of the woods yet, he's getting desperate and now using thermobaric weapons and iskander missile (they can use nuclear payload). I do have to question why he's offering the ukrainian civilians safe passage and pulling his troops back, if i have to guess if talks don't go to planned he will probably use artillery of Kiev "if i can't have it no one can attitude". And with sanctions now in place we are on a knife edge of someone (madman) who has nothing else to loose.
Probably they get accepted into the EU.
 
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