The facts you have issues with
Was it the No WOMD ?
also (Last time it lead to a famine which spread millions of Irish around the world)
How long ago was that ?
Afghanistan - 20 years on
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Was it the No WOMD ?
also (Last time it lead to a famine which spread millions of Irish around the world)
How long ago was that ?
Curious how you measure greatest war crimes number of deaths?
Why democracy ended in Afghanistan.
What caused the US to be involved in War in Iraq in the first place.
When was the Famine? Or when were the Irish spread around the world.
There were multiple famines - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_famine_(disambiguation)
Irish Trend of net emigration on really stopped around the late 1990s.
Be interesting what happens next in Pakistan
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pa...iban-strategy-backfires-posing-regional-risks
https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pa...iban-strategy-backfires-posing-regional-risks
NI was already part of the UK though, and the army was sent in as violence and civil disorder was already starting to become a problem. The IRA might not have been happy about it, but it's a bit of a tough situation for any state to find itself in. Given that the Unionist party had been doing pretty well at NI elections it seems a bit presumptuous to imply that rather than trying to bring order to the region the UK should have just made it independent.
Maybe deploying the army wasn't a good choice in hindsight (or maybe it was, who knows how things would have turned out had a different course been taken), but an 'invasion' and 'military occupation' implies that the place being occupied isn't part of that military's own country, or that some large majority of the population don't feel that the military is an arm of the state they want to live in.
1. Ok why and what, IYO if you can tell me ?
2. if your going to go back 100s of years you will see much worse, Asia, Africa, Middle East etc. I'm talking about the last 50-70 years?
I think it would be educational for you if you did your own research.
I'm not going back 100's of years. I'm just saying it would folly to attack a country of which has so many connections with the US.
Not to mention the attacks were initiated from NI (UK) not Rep of Ireland in the first place.
Thank you for your option.
Soldato
NI population has been majority protestant since its inception. Certainly not 94% catholic. Yes the British army were sent in initially to protect the Catholic minority during civil rights unrest. However in the best laid plans etc., ...
Atomic weapons were horrific and we are lucky to have never seen them used since, if you're familiar with American war crimes presumably you're also familiar with the Japanese ones so I won't go into those; suffice to say I can understand why the Americans may have felt justified in their use at the time.
On the Cold War America spent that time fighting against the USSR and promoting free market democracy while fighting Communism. America, Britain and Western Democracy triumphed and we're all incredibly lucky for that outcome due to much of a wildly better idea it is than the ideas being promoted by the USSR and China at that time. Your existence is living proof of how successful we have been, you aren't starving presumably, you have access to Doctors, food, water, entertainment.. you don't queue for bread. You are basically living a Kingly existence compared to 99% of humans who have ever lived, and still you think America = bad.
It wasn't just protests was it though - tensions were already pretty high.
More importantly though, where on earth are you getting your numbers from? Catholics were around a third of the population in 1971, and only approaching 50% today!
https://cain.ulster.ac.uk/ni/religion.htm#1a
This is pretty off topic really, so I think I'll just leave it by saying I don't think the British army deploying in NI in 1969 counts as an invasion and military occupation, regardless of what ludicrous numbers you conjure up. If you disagree fine, but I don't think this is really going anywhere.
Sorry pasted from the wrong chart. 1971 Census RC 36.8% Protestants 62.3%
What America did was one of the worst thing humans can and have done but they must have felt it was the quickest way to end things, show power and not loose their own solder's, not to carry on with a normal army v army war, No one know what would have happened if they did not drop the bomb, better or worse.
Americans have always felt justified whatever they do, wrong or right. I also feel if most other country had as much power and control they would also feel justified and do the same some are trying to do it now.
I do agree
(You aren't starving presumably, you have access to Doctors, food, water, entertainment.. you don't queue for bread. You are basically living a Kingly existence compared to 99% of humans who have ever lived) but I don't think that's not down to the US or cold war that's how the west changed over the years thanks to real caring people who wanted to change things for the better, You can still see some of the past in politics.
if they feel threatened by another bully, they feel the need to step up so they can stay in control.
The US are no saints either, they are as bad as others sometimes better, sometimes worse.
They have their own type of corruption, they like to be controlling maybe not upfront or bad as others,
war games seem to be ongoing for them. unlike other nations the end one start of another (sometimes I think is this how the US earns money), controlling influencing others etc and that's just the surface of what we know.
We only know what we are told or read, made to believe things that are shared with the world or people in power want us to know, we only find out when things are leaked.
Its sound a lot like some other.
I feel/hope others will also chance for the better once they have long term peace and if they did not have so many problems (Corruption, meddling, finance etc) things can take time even without issues but that's just my thoughts.
Just take our own gov for example the promises they made during the elections and what's happening, what they did and are doing.
half of which we would not know if it was not leaked and even then they face no consequences and thats what they are doing to us not some other country, the US will be as bad
You can't really invade your own Country. So no.
I was just pointing out its bad analogy. Since there terrorist activity didn't come from Rep of Ireland but NI which is the UK.
That terrorist activity came from Civil unrest and inequality in NI (which was the UK).
I think people sensationalize them. Not that they weren't horrific. But its usually framed out of context of other events with much larger loss of life.
Did I say it was the worst ? NO
Dropping a atomic bomb to kill and destroying everything for miles, with all the we know about the long term effects, caused by the atomic bombing,
it was also not just one but 2.
it was not targeting solders but everything in a area miles. Civilians, children and animals with no thought at all lasting years. is that meant to be the good guys.
that was no better, in my option it could be worse it was just destruction without target and thought total annihilation.
is that meant to be the good guys ?
Was it good thing in you option then ??
Maybe you think the allies should not have fought the Japanese. How deaths would that have caused.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160811120353.htm
How many lives including civilians would have been lost in an invasion of Japan. Would Stalin have stopped if he thought the allies didn't have a atomic weapons.
It wasn't even the most destructive bombing raid on Japan.
Of course they could have starved Japan out. Maybe you'd prefer that.