Poll: Abortion, Roe v. Wade
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Because somebody made an observation that you disagree with and it hurt your feelings?
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I get the feeling a lot of people don’t really understand what’s actually been repealed
The US has not banned abortion, they have simply and i out this in the simplest terms that it’s a state matter not a federal matter
It would be similar to to the government here saying it’s up to your local council to legislate on something or the other way pre brexit the eu controlling abortion legislation then making it a U.K. decision
America is entirely different as this is done for so many other things ie the death penalty is decided at a state level so why not abortion?
The US has not banned abortion, they have simply and i out this in the simplest terms that it’s a state matter not a federal matter
It would be similar to to the government here saying it’s up to your local council to legislate on something or the other way pre brexit the eu controlling abortion legislation then making it a U.K. decision
America is entirely different as this is done for so many other things ie the death penalty is decided at a state level so why not abortion?
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I genuinely don't think we could get worse than the current crop in the UK. not unless Putin puts his hat in the ring.
at this point I don't care what colour boxers they wear, they could be any party I just want NOT corrupt, somewhat competent and to actually do what they believe is best for the country rather than happy to put country under a bus for their own personal gains.
Trump ..... I despise him as a person (made even more apparent from the person he replaced) but as much as I disagree with him on most topics.... at least he believed most of what he peddled unlike our current glorious leader imo .
I'm pro choice, but it is bewildering to see a few people I know crying about "my body, my choice" despite being in full support of forcibly vaccinating people just a short while ago...
An ex colleague of mine posted "if you're ignoring NHS messages and refusing to get it done, they should come to your house and hold you down" last year and now she's angry that women have lost the right to make decisions about their own bodies. Amazing.
An ex colleague of mine posted "if you're ignoring NHS messages and refusing to get it done, they should come to your house and hold you down" last year and now she's angry that women have lost the right to make decisions about their own bodies. Amazing.
2 completely different scenarios. Vaccination protects others.
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There are no women on the internet, that’s a proven fact.Be a damn sight more interesting to know if any females voted in this poll
I didn't say they'd made it illegal
And when exactly in the last 50 years did they repeal legislation which made it legal?
Which would be fine if states could be trusted to apply their own appropriate legislation, but at least one of them (e.g. Texas) has made it clear that isn't the case.
To extend your analogy, it would be like the government repealing the Sexual Offences Act 1967 (which made homosexuality legal) after Birmingham Council has already said it will make homosexuality illegal.
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well in the city next to where I grew up there is a law saying it is ok to kill Welsh people with an arrow if they are seen inside the city walls after dark. to be fair I don't think the law has been tested lately and it is *possible* a more recent law may render it obsolete
Amendments to the 1787 original. Whatever the date, it's a long time ago before these concepts existed. That it comes under a later amendment under the right to privacy seems reasonable to me.
As for the religious nut jobs - the Christian Right, obviously. The people that are pro-life and anti-freedom when it comes to an unborn foetus, but won't lift a finger for social security to feed and shelter the now born child or when it comes to banning assault weapons to stop adolescents shooting up primary schools increasingly as that's removing their freedoms. ****** up and hypocritical is what it is.
No, it isn't a long time before "these concepts existed" abortion existed in the 1800s.
Dowie being obtuse shocker! The pharmaceuticals didn't exist until the 1970s. Lets face it, the barbarism of previous "solutions" would have put most women off before that.
You going to call the pharmaceutical method LARPing at abortion now?
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The church literally run pro-life clinics that offer free support for expecting mothers, the providey medical aid, support and necessities like nappies for new mothers, they even help with adoption. These same clinics that provide this service free of charge, are being attacked and fire bombed by those who oppose the pro-life system, the very people who are now threating the lives of the supreme court justices for over turning a ruling that is not a federal issue.
Charity is not social security.
I'm surprised there's anyone in here not shocked and appauled by this.
Trumps legacy playing out I guess with his additions to the panel.
Some will be fortunate enough to be able to hop state or even move state. But many more won't.
USA. Two cultures in one box.
Trumps legacy playing out I guess with his additions to the panel.
Some will be fortunate enough to be able to hop state or even move state. But many more won't.
USA. Two cultures in one box.
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social security is for the retired or those with disabilities afaik.
benefits for children are a different matter entirely and the US government do provide some aid in that regard. There's SNAP (supplemental nutrition assistance program) and TANF (temporary assistance for needy families) which are benefits that are provided by the government to help with these matters. To what degree of aid I'm not 100% on but there does exist a system atleast.
benefits for children are a different matter entirely and the US government do provide some aid in that regard. There's SNAP (supplemental nutrition assistance program) and TANF (temporary assistance for needy families) which are benefits that are provided by the government to help with these matters. To what degree of aid I'm not 100% on but there does exist a system atleast.
So 'my body, my choice (with exceptions)'? That shouldn't be how it works. It's all or nothing.
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It is exactly how it should work, you just need the smarts to understand