Today's mass shooting in the US

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MissChief said:
Shooter was apparently a 28 year old woman now, not a teenager. I wonder if she worked there previously and was fired or maybe she's a parent to a kid bullied there or even abused there. The truth will come out no doubt but it seems oddly specific.
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A LBGT trans woman who now identifies as a man and used to go to the school, was probably bullied there maybe
 
This one will likely get lots of attention due to it being a 'trans' shooter which will likely miss the obvious point that this keeps happening in the US regardless
 
cu3ed said:
Did the police do anything this time or stand outside like cowards?
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The police were on the scene within 15 minutes, and killed the shooter.

XeNoN89 said:
This one will likely get lots of attention due to it being a 'trans' shooter which will likely miss the obvious point that this keeps happening in the US regardless
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Has it been confirmed that the shooter was trans?

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Yes it has.

  • The alleged shooter was identified as 28-year-old Audrey Hale of Nashville. Hale was a former student at The Covenant School, police said.
  • Two officers entered the school building and went towards the sounds of gunfire. They "engaged the shooter," resulting in fatal injuries to the suspect.
  • Hale had two assault-style rifles and a pistol, authorities said during a briefing.
  • Hale had drawn detailed maps of the school, including of surveillance and entry points, Drake said. "We know and believe entry was gained through shooting through one of the doors," he added.
  • "We have a manifesto, we have some writings that we're going over that pertain to this date," the police chief said at an afternoon news conference. "We have a map drawn out of how this was all gonna take place."
  • In response to a reporter's question, police confirmed Hale identified as transgender. No other details about Hale’s gender identity were given at the press conference. Police later confirmed Hale is a biological female but had a social media account with male pronouns.
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Republicans will be celebrating.
 
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A trans person targeted a Christian school on purpose after many of the trans brigade threatened some action.

Yet it is the right wing Americans who are to blame according to some on here.

Great feat of logic there.

If it was a trump supporting right winger, the right wing would be blamed.

If it was a jihadist every Muslim would be blamed.
 
B&W said:
A trans person targeted a Christian school on purpose after many of the trans brigade threatened some action.
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I haven't seen any members of the trans community threatening action beyond the usual shouting in streets.

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Unless significant new information comes to light, it seems to me that the only person responsible for this crime is the shooter.

B&W said:
Yet it is the right wing Americans who are to blame according to some on here.
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Right wing Americans are not responsible for this crime. However, they are responsible for the laws that made it easier to commit.
 
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Sankari said:
I haven't seen any members of the trans community threatening action beyond the usual shouting in streets. Unless significant new information comes to light, the only trans person responsible for this crime is the shooter.



Right wing Americans are not responsible for this crime. However, they are responsible for the laws that made it easier to commit.
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They have threatened violence against women many times, they even have a name for women terf I believe.

It's hardly surprising that this would happen in the end.

Blame the extreme ideology behind this, that for the first time in human history is trying to deny basic facts about humans.

An ideology that happens when Liberal extremes go to far, its the same as that crap in Europe where they allowed a young girl to top herself because she had physchological issues.

When you have no moral compass (apart from oh let everyone do what they want cept for murder/violence) this is the outcome.
 
Sankari said:
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Unless significant new information comes to light, it seems to me that the only person responsible for this crime is the shooter.
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A group identity ideology explicitly encourages violence, frames it as a righteous response to an existential threat and calls for a day of vengeance. That's not irrelevant. For some strains of group identity ideology it would be illegal in itself. Imagine, for example, a whitist ideology calling itself the White Radical Activist Network claiming that people who they consider to be "not white" were conspiring to kill all "white" people and explicitly encouraging violence against non-whites on that basis, calling for a day of vengeance. That would be illegal in itself. They would bear some responsibility if someone did exactly what they were calling on people to do. As does the Trans Radical Activist Network for doing the same thing.
 
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B&W said:
They have threatened violence against women many times, they even have a name for women terf I believe.
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All of that is true, and I myself have posed examples of trans violence (both threatened and committed) against women on this forum. You can find plenty of examples here: www.terfisaslur.com

However, this person attacked a school at which they were previously a student. They attacked adults and children. They did not single out women.

B&W said:
It's hardly surprising that this would happen in the end.

Blame the extreme ideology behind this, that for the first time in human history is trying to deny basic facts about humans.
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I absolutely blame extreme trans ideology for any attacks motivated by that ideology. Whether or not this was the case in this shooting, remains to be seen.

B&W said:
An ideology that happens when Liberal extremes go to far, its the same as that **** in Europe where they allowed a young girl to top herself because she had physchological issues.
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That is an entirely separate issue.

Angilion said:
A group identity ideology explicitly encourages violence, frames it as a righteous response to an existential threat and calls for a day of vengeance. That's not irrelevant.
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I didn't say it was irrelevant. But the 'Day of Vengeance' they planned, did not call for violence (though of course there are many in the trans community who would exploit it this way, which is why I said the messaging was very bad).

Angilion said:
For some strains of group identity ideology it would be illegal in itself. Imagine, for example, a whitist ideology calling itself the White Radical Activist Network claiming that people who they consider to be "not white" were conspiring to kill all "white" people and explicitly encouraging violence against non-whites on that basis, calling for a day of vengeance. That would be illegal in itself.
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I agree with all of that.

Angilion said:
They would bear some responsibility if someone did exactly what they were calling on people to do. As does the Trans Radical Activist Network for doing the same thing.
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As much as I despise the Trans Radical Activist Network, I haven't seen any evidence that they were calling on people to commit acts of violence. I certainly didn't see them saying 'Go and shoot a bunch of kids at a local school.'
 
A male has committed a mass shooting the way many males commit mass shootings nearly everyday it seems in the US. Most of the time their politics isn't the central issue, it's that desperate people have access to weapons.

The above is wrong the information I read mislead me. Apparently the perpetrator was a female. Most unusual.
 
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