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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

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Maybe look at renting an instance on AWS on Spot Price, that's what i'm planning to do for the few hours a week I mess around with AI stuff.
Just checked, a G5.4XL is $0.7537 per hour on Spot pricing, that has 16 cores, 64GB of RAM and an A10 (https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/data-center/products/a10-gpu/) - so basically an undervolted 3090. If you're just messing around and remember to switch it off then that's a cheaper way to do Stable Diffusion and such. If it's your job, then just chalk up the cost of a 4090 to business expenses.
 
Why not?

Everywhere still has loads of RRP ones in stock still....
Because, and apologises if it not what ZXSpekky48k means, i would guess the suspicion is that Nvidia have done some sweetheart deals with AIBs so they can launch some cards at MSRP so it doesn't seem like Nvidia are doing the dirty.

You know like they did with the 30 series and there being very few, if any, AIB cards that matched the price of FE cards after a month or two.
 
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LOL at these emails from OCUK about the 4070, give over please.... stop the hype hype text will you..

"BEYOND FAST.." and "NEXT GENERATION" etc etc, do me a favor....more costly than cards that perform better from almost 3 years ago with MORE VRAM!

Joke of a launch, joke of a product.
 
Because, and apologises if it not what ZXSpekky48k means, i would guess the suspicion is that Nvidia have done some sweetheart deals with AIBs so they can launch some cards at MSRP so it doesn't seem like Nvidia are doing the dirty.

You know like they did with the 30 series and there being very few, if any, AIB cards that matched the price of FE cards after a month or two.

That only works if the demand is there.

There is still stock everywhere at the RRP price on launch day (the most hyped up day).

Yes, they did it with the 30 series but that is because they were literal money printers!

With 4070Ti's in stock for near £800 everywhere, i am not sure how on earth pushing up the 4070 price to nearer that would in any way help sales....
 
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Because, and apologises if it not what ZXSpekky48k means, i would guess the suspicion is that Nvidia have done some sweetheart deals with AIBs so they can launch some cards at MSRP so it doesn't seem like Nvidia are doing the dirty.

You know like they did with the 30 series and there being very few, if any, AIB cards that matched the price of FE cards after a month or two.
Definitely feels like that but you never know! It is a different market currently - but the fact that some aren’t that much below a 7900xt suggests aibs might get fancy stronger pricing.
 
That only works if the demand is there.
True, but that all depends on Nvidia. If, and it's nothing but conjecture, Nvidia subsidise AIBs to make sure they have cards at MSRP on launch day and then decide to withdraw those subsidies AIBs will stop making them unless or until Nvidia reduce the price they charge AIBs for chip/ram sets.

Nvidia could, if they wanted, simply subsidies AIBs so the have some cards at MSRP on launch day and later withdraw those subsidies and refuse to lower the prices they charge AIBs.
 
True, but that all depends on Nvidia. If, and it's nothing but conjecture, Nvidia subsidise AIBs to make sure they have cards at MSRP on launch day and then decide to withdraw those subsidies AIBs will stop making them unless or until Nvidia reduce the price they charge AIBs for chip/ram sets.

Nvidia could, if they wanted, simply subsidies AIBs so the have some cards at MSRP on launch day and later withdraw those subsidies and refuse to lower the prices they charge AIBs.

I just don't see how the price makes sense at any more than the RRP (to be honest it doesnt make sense even at that price!).
 
I just don't see how the price makes sense at any more than the RRP (to be honest it doesnt make sense even at that price!).

Price should have been $499 from the start with the 4070 but Nvidia TAX needs to be added it seems. $499 I think the complaints would have been pretty few.

Same really with the 3060Ti if it wasn't for the performance at the price it would have been laughed at too if it was anymore expensive. That's why you could forgive the 8GB VRAM on it then and say well what do you expect for the performance and price..

Just sadly greed is taking over with everything now and until people stand up and speak against it or refuse to buy the over priced products nothing will change in the near future and of all things may/will get worse.
 
I just don't see how the price makes sense at any more than the RRP (to be honest it doesnt make sense even at that price!).
Neither do i but it seems there are people willing to pay anything from £50 to £150+ above MSRP. If I'm honest i expected GPU markets to normalise much faster after yet another crypto bust and while the 4070 moves things in the right direction (it does offer good cost per frame) it's nowhere by as much as i was hoping/expecting.
 
Well, according to the stock levels everywhere on these things, there aren't many!

Don't forget there has been months of 90, 80 and 70Ti to soak up the early birds. Can't wait for the sales figures to reflect if people really are hungry for them or inventory is going to force them to adjust pricing aggressively some day.
 
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Don't forget there has been months of 90, 80 and 70Ti to soak up the early birds. Can't wait for the sales figures to reflect if people really are hungry for them or inventory is going to force them to adjust pricing aggressively some day.

The demand simply isnt there.

I remember the 3050 at RRP sold out in a few hours last year.

A number of RRP 4070 models have been posted on hotukdeals from 2pm and they are still in stock. With the 3xxx series, they would have been gone in literal minutes if posted on there.

There is an RRP gigabyte model on a competitor site and the stock number has not moved since 2.10pm. They've sold 1.
 
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Some of the AIB prices are very high on some models. Dare say the launch deals won’t be repeated for a while.
According to this review OCUK is charging over the MRSP of this Zotac card, so if anything they should have room to come down, (unless the reviewer has got the price mixed up with the trinity),

https://youtu.be/rMD7yGadfA8

 
According to this review OCUK is charging over the MRSP of this Zotac card, so if anything they should have room to come down, (unless the reviewer has got the price mixed up with the trinity),

https://youtu.be/rMD7yGadfA8

Price is about the same at other sites.
 
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