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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

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That is pretty much where I am at, I understand the 4080 is also cut down a lot and not a true 80 class card, not with the node jump we did. But give me a 4080 tier performance card with 16gb ram for £750-800 and I'll bite. Having said that, if you happy to go AMD, the 7900XT is £750 and overclocks beyond a 4080 and has 20gb ram....

And you can even get one of the best versions/best coolers for £799 as well.
 
4070Ti is a stupid card at those prices with 12GB. It’s probably the worst of the lineup IMO.

I think 12gb is ok for now, as the consoles don't have more.

However no doubt the ps5 pro and Xbox series X...X (?) Will come out soon and I reckon they will have upped the ram/vram to at least 16gb.

Tha could cause some problems next year on 12 GB cards.
 
I think 12gb is ok for now, as the consoles don't have more.

However no doubt the ps5 pro and Xbox series X...X (?) Will come out soon and I reckon they will have upped the ram/vram to at least 16gb.

Tha could cause some problems next year on 12 GB cards.
Nah, I disagree. If you are a 1440p gamer and want to spend $$$ on a brand new card and intend to keep it for its 3 year warranty period, you want 16GB ram for sure.....

12 GB is already getting maxed out in 1440p in demanding games, 16GB or turn settings down/fps stutter along....
 
I think 12gb is ok for now, as the consoles don't have more.

Depends - the developers ensure the games work within those confines by reducing texture sizes, assets etc. But if you want to turn everything up on the pc at a higher resolution and use features like RT then I would want more than 12GB. It’s ‘ok’ on a circa £500 4070, but not on a 8-900 quid 4070Ti IMO. No way I would pay that kind of money for a 12GB card. The 10GB 3080 was pushing it anyway and here we are almost 3 years later.

Much more comfortable with 20GB. £800 is still a lot for a GPU, but the 7900XT Nitro is a lovely bit of kit (so long as the fans work haha). I did think long and hard about getting the XTX but another £300 is a fair chunk, and I think the XT is even way more than I need on that particular machine anyway…
 
Public library mate, fully aircon and free to enter & remain all day, heavily engrossed in a novel, or go A&E tell them you bumped your head and feel dizzy & seeing stars, will keep you for observation overnight and even give a bed & breakfast, ofc all fully airconned ;)

A night in a cell at a police station also has such services :cry:
 
I've always said the 7900XT would be a good'n at £750, make it official AMD.

No that should be the xtx , if Nvidia priced the 4080 at normal pricing i.e £650-£750 , AMD would have have called the 7900xtx the 7800xt as that's what it's competing against or even just went alone and done it imagine how much praise they would have got

But noo let's slightly have it lower cost behind 4080 and let's call it the 7900xtx even though it's competing against 80 tier card

Don't know what the 7900xt is all about, both AMD and Nvidia taking us for fools
 
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Are you reading the same data as everyone else?

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From the top 8 cards, a total of 3,095 cards, only ~17% were RTX 4070's in release week - I am not sure how you consider that a success along with the fact the prices are being dropped.
Yes and this is the launch of the 4070, it should be a lot higher if it was a good launch and a great launch the numbers would be going through the floor compared to the other cards.
 
Depends - the developers ensure the games work within those confines by reducing texture sizes, assets etc. But if you want to turn everything up on the pc at a higher resolution and use features like RT then I would want more than 12GB. It’s ‘ok’ on a circa £500 4070, but not on a 8-900 quid 4070Ti IMO. No way I would pay that kind of money for a 12GB card. The 10GB 3080 was pushing it anyway and here we are almost 3 years later.

Much more comfortable with 20GB. £800 is still a lot for a GPU, but the 7900XT Nitro is a lovely bit of kit (so long as the fans work haha). I did think long and hard about getting the XTX but another £300 is a fair chunk, and I think the XT is even way more than I need on that particular machine anyway…

I don't think £300 is worth the fairly small performance uplift in my opinion.
 
In my opinion, 4070 £499, 6950XT if you can get it to dip below £600 - some offers can do that, 7900XT I'd like to see close to £700.
Exactly this is what they should have come out at in 2023. 4070 $499 and 7900XT $699... They would have had less complaints on prices and had more sales for sure right from the start. After a few months keep the price add some popular game bundle as a gesture and people again would have purchased again to keep sales constant and to clear built up stocks.

But sadly greed and testing the waters all the time both companies. In a time where people are struggling to pay their bills and the silly cost of living situation. They really couldn't have timed it worse to raise prices and mess with the tiers of their cards.. All related to the mining and covid lockdowns that made people spend more then because they were not able to go anywhere so wanted to be entertained/work at home and spent that money they would use to go on holiday or out on such things..

But these companies took it as people are willing to spend that and we have been under pricing our goods, which is not true just the time we were in at the time allowed people to justify such an expensive purchase.. Now in 2023 nope no one can sensibly justify such a purchase especially with our energy bills and bills just to eat.. These last 3 years need to remembered and never repeated again as sadly humanity as a whole looked pretty bad during that period.. From the people scalping, not wearing masks or keeping themselves safe from covid and others to all the silly things we saw... come on how low have we got when people were scalping toilet rolls and hand sanitisers of all things.. :rolleyes:
 
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MLID has had a couple of genuine game developers on talking about this.

In the next couple of years 16GB is going to be the minimum for a mid rage (AAA 1440P) card, game devs have no interest in stagnating their products because of one small segment of their wider revenue, they are competing with eachother, they are no longer worried about a couple of dGPU's stuttering in their games, that's a small fraction of thier target audience and the responsibility for choosing the right hardware for the job is on the consumer.
lol at those developers.
Most games stutter regardless of how much vram is available or how much hardware you throw at them due to lazy ports.
They just admitted to doing lazy ports and looking for something to put the blame on.
 
AMD are no angels, for from it, but, they haven't 'yet' fallen in to the trap of planned obsolescence, which is just about the most egregious thing you can do to your user base. Its narcissistic.

Nvidia have, and it shouldn't sit right with any of us that anyone can get away with such things, let alone reap all the rewards for it at our expense while the other is struggling even to stay relevant, that is something we should all feel is an injustice, drawing attention to it does not make one an AMD fanboy, its also intended as a lesson to AMD that we know about it, we understand what it is and we dislike it intensely, at least we should.

That describes Nvidia very well that word and also Intel in the past, now Intel are well a bit more humble but we will see how long that lasts too..

Nvidia needs a little humble pie too and Karma has a funny way to deal with things as we saw with Intel..

Time will tell as it always does... then grandpa leather jacket man will come out and play how nice he is and giving us all candies with our purchase that they can't sell or compete with a future competitor in the market.. This is why I dislike Nvidia and some companies they behave like narcissists or entitled spoiled kids and sadly to me that behaviour really turns me off.
 
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