The England Cricket Thread

Sankari said:
Likely replacements for Ali and Broad? Warner has probably saved himself yet again, though he really needs to go.
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I'm not sure Warner will tbh, not sure he'll get to sign off in Sydney like the probable plan is. But then again who will you replace him with?

As for the next Ashes both sides have ageing players that need replacing. For the Aussies, besides Warner, you also have Khawaja and Smith who are mid thirties.

We'll be without Broad, Ali and Anderson for starters. Crawley coming in and being top run scorer is hopeful for the English, particularly with the way he plays
 
Just throwing it out there, but should players be allowed to fiddle with / swap the bails like Broad did? I don't see a particular issue; it just doesn't seem right that they should be allowed to.

It could lead to people doing it all the time to psych out the batsmen (which is OK?), players not reseating them correctly, etc.

Maybe it's just fine and I'm overthinking it.
 
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Just throwing it out there, but should players be allowed to fiddle with / swap the bails like Broad did? I don't see a particular issue; it just doesn't seem right that they should be allowed to.

It could lead to people doing it all the time to psych out the batsmen (which is OK?), players not reseating them correctly, etc.

Maybe it's just fine and I'm overthinking it.
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Something something spirit of the game...
 
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Participant said:
Just throwing it out there, but should players be allowed to fiddle with / swap the bails like Broad did? I don't see a particular issue; it just doesn't seem right that they should be allowed to.

It could lead to people doing it all the time to psych out the batsmen (which is OK?), players not reseating them correctly, etc.

Maybe it's just fine and I'm overthinking it.
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He did it on the non-striker end didn't he?
 
Participant said:
Just throwing it out there, but should players be allowed to fiddle with / swap the bails like Broad did? I don't see a particular issue; it just doesn't seem right that they should be allowed to.

It could lead to people doing it all the time to psych out the batsmen (which is OK?), players not reseating them correctly, etc.

Maybe it's just fine and I'm overthinking it.
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I'm no fan of it and i'm sure the umps aren't either.
 
I know the operational costs and time would make it unfeasible but the cricket stadium in Australia with a roof looks epic, I can't help but feel with the risk of rain taking that element out of the game would infinitely add to the enjoyment...
 
AssaTM said:
I know the operational costs and time would make it unfeasible but the cricket stadium in Australia with a roof looks epic, I can't help but feel with the risk of rain taking that element out of the game would infinitely add to the enjoyment...
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They use it for the T20's and the AFL but its not a test venue. The big T20 hitters regulary hit the roof in it :D It's kinda all plastic and concrete and lacks any soul, much like some modern football stadiums. The MCG capacity is double and it's 2 stops on the train from it. It was purpose built and designed with a roof, retro fitting a roof to existing venues as you say would never stack up cost or timewise.

I read a stat on BBC cricket saying in Ashes series they have lost 10 days play in Melbourne. 24 in Manchester but 25 in Sydney.
 
Dialup said:
He did it on the non-striker end didn't he?
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Yes, but what point are you making here?

Firstly the non-striker end in one over is obviously the striker's end in the next over, and secondly it's done right in the eyeline of the batsman.

I'm sure it's not breaking any specific rules but it's overt gamesmanship in my opinion.
 
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Yes, but what point are you making here?

Firstly the non-striker end in one over is obviously the striker's end in the next over, and secondly it's done right in the eyeline of the batsman.

I'm sure it's not breaking any specific rules but it's overt gamesmanship in my opinion.
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What's wrong with gamesmanship? It's a huge part of cricket. How does it differ from putting a fielder at silly mid off with the sun behind them so their shadow is on the pitch, or a bit of chat from the slips?
 
manic111 said:
What's wrong with gamesmanship? It's a huge part of cricket. How does it differ from putting a fielder at silly mid off with the sun behind them so their shadow is on the pitch, or a bit of chat from the slips?
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Well there's a clear difference in that verbals are not physically interfering with the equipment.
 
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Well there's a clear difference in that verbals are not physically interfering with the equipment.
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As long as the bails are re-seated correctly, and I don't think anyone has suggested that they were not, what's the issue?

Edit: for that matter, if the bails fall off without the involvement of the ball, that detriments the fielding team and not the batting team anyway
 
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manic111 said:
As long as the bails are re-seated correctly, and I don't think anyone has suggested that they were not, what's the issue?

Edit: for that matter, if the bails fall off without the involvement of the ball, that detriments the fielding team and not the batting team anyway
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I'm not sure if there is an issue. It's not a clear is / isn't. It's the floodgates argument though; will people start mucking around with the stumps? Fiddling with the boundary ropes? All for "superstition".

It just doesn't seem right that players should be able to touch the stumps and bails. There's no reason to and it's why umpires are meant to reseat bails when they're dislodged during a run out / stumping / bowling.
 
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I'm not sure if there is an issue. It's not a clear is / isn't. It's the floodgates argument though; will people start mucking around with the stumps? Fiddling with the boundary ropes? All for "superstition".

It just doesn't seem right that players should be able to touch the stumps and bails. There's no reason to and it's why umpires are meant to reseat bails when they're dislodged during a run out / stumping / bowling.
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Is it any different to a batsman taking a bail out and using it to mark his guard, which frequently happens in the WI and SA where the pitches can be too hard to take guard with a bat? The umpire doesn't reseat the bail then.

Obviously if players do things which risks equipment being tampered with in a manner negatively affecting the other side (physically, not simply due to gamesmanship), or in a manner which takes time out of the game as the umpires have to come in to reset the stumps, then there's a problem. That hasn't happened with the bails - nobody has suggested that they weren't reseated correctly (and it's pretty hard to reseat a bail incorrectly without it falling off), and I struggle to see how a genuine risk could arise out of this.
 
Participant said:
Yes, but what point are you making here?

Firstly the non-striker end in one over is obviously the striker's end in the next over, and secondly it's done right in the eyeline of the batsman.

I'm sure it's not breaking any specific rules but it's overt gamesmanship in my opinion.
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But Broad did it at the non-striker end and then took a wicket at the other end, so I am failing to see how exactly it impacted the batter facing the ball?
 
Just thought you guys might appreciate this as it is pretty awesome! I don't even know if any of you watch the women's cricket but this is my best friends' little sister who is an amazing cricket player!

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On that note, anyone watching the Hundred?

I was at Trent bridge last week on a corporate invite to Trent rockets vs Southern brave and whilst it was a bit Americanised I did find it quite good. I've subsequently watched a few and really enjoyed it which is surprising as I don't normally like the white ball games and never got into the 20/20 at all.
 
LOAM said:
On that note, anyone watching the Hundred?
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I was coming to see if there was already a thread.

Yes, to my great surprise, I’ve been loving it. When the format was first announced, I had no interest at all but the tournament has been great to watch, especially as Sky have most of the games on SkySportsMix (or whatever it’s called).

There have been some fantastic close matches, right down to the last ball.

Some not so close.

Commentator, clearly chuckling: “And in he comes, they need sixty three more runs from this last ball to win”.

Who was the doris interviewing Root, Broad and Ali after the match last night?
 
Feek said:
I was coming to see if there was already a thread.

Yes, to my great surprise, I’ve been loving it. When the format was first announced, I had no interest at all but the tournament has been great to watch, especially as Sky have most of the games on SkySportsMix (or whatever it’s called).

There have been some fantastic close matches, right down to the last ball.

Some not so close.

Commentator, clearly chuckling: “And in he comes, they need sixty three more runs from this last ball to win”.

Who was the doris interviewing Root, Broad and Ali after the match last night?
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I missed most of last nights as we were traveling north but I do tend to kill it not long after the last ball lol.
 
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