Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Let's be clear here.. unless Israel act, the attacks are going to continue. They either chose to have people die on the other side of the border, or have their own civilians die. They are choosing the damage to be on the other side. I'm sorry, I cannot blame them here.

And again, I absolutely do not think Israel is blameless. No country is perfect, and it's worse when you are surrounded by enemies.
 
Troezar said:
Just a heads up, a student has been arrested for giving a pro Hamas speech. It is actually illegal to support or promote the actions of terrorist organisations and the authorities seem to be taking it seriously.
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I would have to know what was in the speech, but unless the student was telling people to go harm/kill jews, I would prefer the government get out of the way and let people show us who they are.
 
Uther said:
Sky news:
''Away from the news conference for a second, we've just had this from the Met Police.
The force has seen a "massive increase" in antisemitic incidents in London in the last week.
"Offences ranging from intimidating people in front of synagogues, people playing German military music in front of Jews, or people laughing and celebrating the deaths in Israel," the Met said in a statement.
A spokesperson said there is a "significant level of concern" in the Jewish community and people are "genuinely scared".
In 2022, there were 14 antisemitic incidents and 12 offences recorded by the Met.
This year, there have been 105 antisemitic incidents and 75 offences.
A rise in Islamophobic incidents has also been reported, but on a much smaller scale, the Met said.
Thousands of people are expected to attend a pro-Palestinian march in London tomorrow.
The Met has warned any expression of support for Hamas - either a flag or behaviour - will be a criminal offence.
Having a Palestinian flag will not be considered an offence, but people will be arrested if their behaviour incites or supports violence...''

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-g...ve-blog-12978800?postid=6574310#liveblog-body
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Anyone else getting Kristallnacht vibes?

I've i was Jewish i'd be looking for safe haven countries
 
Abraxaz1 said:
Anyone else getting Kristallnacht vibes?

I've i was Jewish i'd be looking for safe haven countries
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I don't think anywhere is 'safe' is it? At least in WW2 they could try and get to a safe country, now wherever they go the people wanting to kill them are probably already there.
 
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n111ck said:
If the bombing was really as indiscriminate as Hamas supporters would have us believe why is the death count relatively low..

I'm sure Israel have much more powerful weapons available to them if they just want to flatten everything..
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At last count, they had dropped 6000+ bombs or missiles with less than 1500 deaths. That is probably akin to throwing javelins 1000 years ago seeing as the potential for a bomb dropped indiscriminately or a missile fired with no specific target would surely be higher.

Not making light of the deaths of women and children (which was the case with the Hamas postings) but how many of the remainder (and indeed of the women) are Hamas personnel? Viewed with that lens, it can hardly be claimed that the Israeli strikes are indiscriminate.
 
Twinz said:
I would have to know what was in the speech, but unless the student was telling people to go harm/kill jews, I would prefer the government get out of the way and let people show us who they are.
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Supporting designated terrorist organisations is, in itself, illegal in the UK. But, I tend to agree with you, actual hate speech should be outlawed but I'm uncomfortable with free speech restrictions on something as broadly drawn as "supporting" an organisation no matter how repellent their actions.

Abraxaz1 said:
Anyone else getting Kristallnacht vibes?
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Kristallnacht happened because the authorities sat back and let it happen. There is thankfully no risk of that happening in the UK and while the anti-Semitic behaviour reported above is disgusting and no doubt scary to the Jewish population, they still represent a minority in the UK rather than anything that has tainted the mainstream.
 
n111ck said:
Which other media outlets are refusing to refer to Hamas as terrorists?
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www.thehindu.com

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Many many around the world dont - they condem both sides actions and call to protect children (again both sides) and obey the Laws of War.
 
Malt_Vinegar said:
Not at all. The Police have clearly said they will be monitoring and enforcing the event.
To compare the two is ridiculous..
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Jewish buildings attacked.
Theres a video of pro palastinian cars driving round with loud speakers shouting gas the jews, rape their daughters.

We all know the police are too scared to deal with the muslim extremists at the best of times. let alone this powder keg
 
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