1930s Semi Refurb - Part 1 of ... (Edition: Bathroom Relocation)

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Is that an external wall? I'd always go external walls for toilets just for ease, ventilation go for wall mount it'll be fine.

Whats your EPC rating? Are you able to make use of the insulation grant? They'll install venilation in all toilet and kitchen spaces for you fully funded.
 
Hyburnate said:
Is that an external wall? I'd always go external walls for toilets just for ease, ventilation go for wall mount it'll be fine.

Whats your EPC rating? Are you able to make use of the insulation grant? They'll install venilation in all toilet and kitchen spaces for you fully funded.
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I plan to box the wall for all shower/niches/waste pipe, so not too far from external wall (left hand side in my mock up).

EPC is E, but council tax is also E, which I think rules me out.
 
Hyburnate said:
Is that an external wall? I'd always go external walls for toilets just for ease, ventilation go for wall mount it'll be fine.

Whats your EPC rating? Are you able to make use of the insulation grant? They'll install venilation in all toilet and kitchen spaces for you fully funded.
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I just had a quick look at that and appears it's only for households with income <£30k. Unless there's another one I'm missing?
 
Makes sense then, shame about the Council Tax band. I’ve just had them in to put core holes in and all new insulation last week which has saved me a huge job.

That makes sense regarding your availability for the soil pipe, 100mm is a chunky pipe though.

I’ll have a play and see how I’d lay it out…. What’s your dimensions? :D

@Macky its not means tested for the insulation. I had Dyson come in and do a check and then about 2 weeks later I had it fully complete, very very impressed, pay enough tax so it’s nice to see some support for trying to restore homes to their former glory… https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/free-cavity-loft-insulation/
 
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Left hand wall is external. Front wall is the front of the house so nothing exposed there, however I do have the porch roof to play with. So theoretically there could be a toilet where the bath is, in that example above. I'd then come down, through the ceiling of the porch, and hook a right. Not sure I'd get the drop I need on the poo pipe without it running past the kitchen window though! So left hand "top" is most preferred
 
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That layout looks great. If that is a stud wall that the door is on you could get a pocket door and then save on opening space (I know it is opening outwards but still).
 
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You're gonna have to stud that left hand wall out if you want a wall hung toilet there, suggest it looks better than just boxing in the frame and will give room for a recess in shower.

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I have a hipped roof - would you guys suggest venting through the wall is sufficient or do I need to invest in a roof vent?
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Space in the roof to hide the extractor?
 
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Hyburnate said:
Honestly I quite like that layout that you've put above... whats the reason you haven't gone with it?

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Just feels a bit crammed for a tiny room :(

FNG said:
That layout looks great. If that is a stud wall that the door is on you could get a pocket door and then save on opening space (I know it is opening outwards but still).
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Interesting - no studs, but nothing stopping me hanging the door and it sliding over the staircase void!....hmmm... will have to re-do the balustrade tho..

200sols said:
You're gonna have to stud that left hand wall out if you want a wall hung toilet there, suggest it looks better than just boxing in the frame and will give room for a recess in shower.


Space in the roof to hide the extractor?
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Yeah thats an idea - I could then run plumbing to the tub/shower niche/bath niche.
 
dlockers said:
Just feels a bit crammed for a tiny room :(


Interesting - no studs, but nothing stopping me hanging the door and it sliding over the staircase void!....hmmm... will have to re-do the balustrade tho..


Yeah thats an idea - I could then run plumbing to the tub/shower niche/bath niche.
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Unless you’re going to consider a shower over bath I think it will always be the way it’ll be. You don’t want the toilet on the other wall really
 
Might have been mentioned before but what is the reason for not having a shower above the bath? Are you realistically going to have people showering and bathing at the same time.

I am currently sitting in my office which is 2.4m x 2.4 and cant even imagine how I would fit a shower/sink/toilet and bath in a space this size and be able to move let alone dry myself or enjoy a nice poo!
 
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roccles said:
Might have been mentioned before but what is the reason for not having a shower above the bath? Are you realistically going to have people showering and bathing at the same time.
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It was the original desire but I am much more open (sorry this thread has been running a year now lol).

roccles said:
I am currently sitting in my office which is 2.4m x 2.4 and cant even imagine how I would fit a shower/sink/toilet and bath in a space this size and be able to move let alone dry myself or enjoy a nice poo!
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Since creating this thread it has become an office and I think that's what made me change my view on separate shower lol. It has a day bed and a desk in there, feels rammed!
 
The wild card I never, ever wanted to pull - is put the shower bath up against the window. My in laws have this and I hate it though, feels really grotty.
 
dlockers said:
Also, for ventilation, given the window is opening "incorrectly" for a bathroom when I switch rooms, I am thinking a proper vent is required.

I have a hipped roof - would you guys suggest venting through the wall is sufficient or do I need to invest in a roof vent?
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Centrifugal Loft fans are so much better at removing moist Iair than the axial fans you can get on the wall. If you look at a couple spec sheets the flowrates are about 5x.

Get it in the loft, particularly for a victorian house.
 
The problem with a shower over a bath is that unless you're going to fit a large shower screen or curtain, the floor is going to get really wet when taking a shower.

If you go with the toilet next to the bath you'll have to install the bath panel first before the toilet otherwise is going to be a bit of a challenge getting the panel in and sealed.
 
dlockers said:
Yeah thats an idea - I could then run plumbing to the tub/shower niche/bath niche.
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Good plan but it will push the shower closer to the door and it already looks cramped in there as it is. Small showers are horrible (possible even more heinous than a shower bath).
 
Though I might have already said this, but a P shape bath - we have, is definitely fine for showers over bath, in conjunction with a curved shower screen,
and definitely gives more space to swing a cat than dedicated shower cubicles I've previously had ... the soap/shampoo etc. is obviously not taking up space either.
Never used it for a bath, guess it might take more water

eg

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