1930s Semi Refurb - Part 1 of ... (Edition: Bathroom Relocation)

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Going to get started soon chaps. Any thoughts on where to start?

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I figure I channel the wall for 15mm shower fittings, and then use a normal shower bar rather than a button. I'm quite happy with that setup; having done it in this house temporarily and in the past one.

Alternative - I build a small false wall and house the shower gubbins.

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Floorboards run shower to bath, so waste can pretty easily leave the external wall (right hand side).

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22mm drop for the bath, as I hate waiting for baths to fill. T off for toilet, sink.

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Key q - do I rip the plaster off of the external wall (bath/ shower walls) and put insulated plaster board? In the FULLNESS of time, there is a chance I do a double story side extension.

The issue is this room is north facing, so often freezing.

Thanks all :D

Edit: I might build the wall out a bit to fit a niche/shower gubbins so a switch panel shower may be back on the cards.

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Just need to size up and purchase the right quadrant shower. They are so expensive!
 
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Are you sacrificing bath length to fit in a towel rail?
It's still a full length bath, so 'no'. I'm cramming it up the one corner to make the vanity less cramped. Haven't decided on a bath yet. What were you thinking?

Only comment is fitting/maintaining the bath taps in the position they're in could be difficult. Flexis?
Not set on having them there, broadly dependant on bath I guess. Has added pipe placement to my 'mindful checklist' versus auto piloting them to the middle lol.
 
Wildcard - how difficult would it be to achieve something like this?

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I think removing the tray in this instance will make quite a difference given the space. And the enclosures are so expensive I could even save some cost? (Not that that is the major priority but still).
 
It's still a full length bath, so 'no'. I'm cramming it up the one corner to make the vanity less cramped. Haven't decided on a bath yet. What were you thinking?
I'm just thinking the bath will look better central to the wall, either tiled in or freestanding.

I think removing the tray in this instance will make quite a difference given the space. And the enclosures are so expensive I could even save some cost? (Not that that is the major priority but still).
You wont save cost, the prep work will be considerably more than a standard tray setup. Also will depend how floor runs, joists etc. Very achievable though. Also it will raise the entire floor height which may or may not bother you.
 
I'm just thinking the bath will look better central to the wall, either tiled in or freestanding.


You wont save cost, the prep work will be considerably more than a standard tray setup. Also will depend how floor runs, joists etc. Very achievable though. Also it will raise the entire floor height which may or may not bother you.
I agree -- the original design had it central but it kept giving me a nagging feeling I'd lose too much useful space in an already 'cramped' room :(. At least if I do it the way I've most recently proposed I could swap that rad for a storage unit or something.

Re: curbless. I think the joists are in my favour (they run left to right on my diagram above). I'll have to do some reading, I think the prep will be acceptable timescale-wise as I will be building this whilst the other bathroom is serviceable. I believe you can get trays that replace the floorboards in that space? Do you need special tiles/ does it limit tile selection?
 
I believe you can get trays that replace the floorboards in that space? Do you need special tiles/ does it limit tile selection?
Yeah you can do that. (picture here not that I am recommending this website :cry:).Any decent porcelain tile will be fine really, its your ability to cut them accurately that will be the issue around the drain. May need a good wetsaw etc.
 
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A recessed tray might be an option if you don't want to go into the whole wetroom install

Also if you didn't want to go chasing pipes into walls you could go for a Mira or Aqualisa digital which can fed from above. You might want the false wall for niche anyway though.
 
Cheers chaps. What's the crack about 'fed from above' @gingergundog - I didn't quite get that statement?

Also, need to consider:
- ventilation - I want something overspecced I think. Because of the hip roof I'll need to vent out of the roof tiles. Is there any kits I can get? Will be engaging my famous plumbing duo to tackle this (the dad is a roofer/carpenter and they did my loft boiler).

- underfloor heating - the wet system isn't on enough to feel the benefit (heating rarely on), so are electric systems ok in a space this size? I could ask Alexa to boost it before a shower or put it on timer?
 
If you look at the last picture you can see how its set up re the plumbing.

A Mira option

They are quite modern though...you might prefer something more traditional looking.
 
If you look at the last picture you can see how its set up re the plumbing.

A Mira option

They are quite modern though...you might prefer something more traditional looking.
Ah!! That's badass - I do quite like that :D Will get murdered by wife though I think. Let me do some research :D
 
yes you haven't removed the tray - it just becomes a more complex and expensive embedded tray with the appropriate fall to drain, beneath the tiles;
water accumulates more on a wet room floor because their drainage is less channeled.

Mira are great - just one shower pipe down from ceiling with pumped supply and (puck) remote controlled mixer valves in the loft above;
parents have had to make some call outs for those valves which didn't like the low loft temperatures in last years freeze - warranty essential.
 
Mira are great - just one shower pipe down from ceiling with pumped supply and (puck) remote controlled mixer valves in the loft above;
parents have had to make some call outs for those valves which didn't like the low loft temperatures in last years freeze - warranty essential.
Interesting! That may be a game changer. Can you wrap/insulate the unit itself? My loft gets brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
 
they did improve the insulation, but hasn't, subsequently, been as beastly cold
... but the initial no you can't have a shower - error code XXX on the puck was confusing, for them.
 
they did improve the insulation, but hasn't, subsequently, been as beastly cold
... but the initial no you can't have a shower - error code XXX on the puck was confusing, for them.
I think the risk of that happening has totally put me off :cry:


So two follow up questions for everyone:

- ventilation - I want something overspecced I think. Because of the hip roof I'll need to vent out of the roof tiles. Is there any kits I can get? Will be engaging my famous plumbing duo to tackle this (the dad is a roofer/carpenter and they did my loft boiler).

- underfloor heating - the wet system isn't on enough to feel the benefit (heating rarely on), so are electric systems ok in a space this size? I could ask Alexa to boost it before a shower or put it on timer?
 
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ProWarm underfloor heating. Yes absolutely fine in that space.
Go with an inline fan system for the ventilation :)
Thanks!

Just made me think about tail heater/radiator now.............. electric or plumbed? I have an option of a plinth heater too.

The reason I am edging away from a wet system is purely due to the fact the towels are wet often when the heating isn't on!
 
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