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14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"

Had some fun and games due to the BIOS version pre-dating 14th gen :( and not recognising anything in PCI-e X16 or the CPU M.2 slots, so nothing on display until I plugged into the embedded graphics and had to update to the beta for some reason before it was seeing things properly, the initial 14th gen BIOS for the board still didn't seem to work correctly with the CPU.
 
jigger said:
No it’s been around for ages and works on 13000 series chips and by extension 14/12000 series.
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Citation needed. Either The Verge or you are very much mistaken (again).

APO only works on 14th Gen CPUs, and to even install the app, you’ll need some special drivers installed beforehand. Intel’s APO is only available in the Microsoft Store, and it will error out and fail to install if you don’t have the drivers present.
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www.theverge.com

Intel’s new 14th Gen CPUs get a boost to gaming performance with APO feature

The 14th Gen improvements are thanks to a new Intel feature.
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com
 
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heres what intel says about it:- https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000095419/processors.html

Intel® Application Optimization Requirements​

  • Installation and enablement of Intel® Dynamic Tuning Technology (Intel® DTT) should be available for supported systems.
  • BIOS Camarillo PCI device option enabled by default. Refer to your OEMs for support if this option is not available.
  • Operating system: Windows 11*.

Processors supported by Intel® Application Optimization​


Why did Intel only choose to enable Intel® Application Optimization on select 14th Gen processors?

Settings within Intel® Application Optimization are custom determined for each supported processor, as they consider the number of P-cores, E-cores, and Intel® Hyperthreading Technology. Due to the massive amount of custom testing that went into the optimized setting parameters specifically gaming applications, Intel chose to align support for our gaming-focused processors.


afaik you need a 14th gen cpu, a updated motherboardbios with dtt support, the dtt drivers installed and also you have to download the app from the ms store. i think the app only supports a few games at the moment.
 
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Not much to show but my 14700K build together

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Fans: 1x Akasa Apache Black, 4x Be Quiet! Silent Wings 3
Heatsink: Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
PSU: Be Quiet! Dark Power 13 850Watt
MB: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master
CPU: Intel 14700K
RAM: Kingston Fury Renegade 32GB 6000MHz
NVMEs: Samsung 990 Pro 1TB, SK Hynix Platinum 2TB
GPU: nVidia 3070FE
Soundcard: Creative AE-5
Thermal Paste: Arctic MX-6

Probably going to tweak the fan setup and cable management a bit.

Had some BIOS fun and games, but once I put the latest beta BIOS on it seems to have sorted things aside from resizeable bar which doesn't seem to want to play ball for some reason.

RAM fit under the heatsink fine which I didn't think would go so easily - somewhere the dimensions are listed wrong.

CPU runs at about 29C idle and hits 100C under stress tests - though fans are currently in silent mode so could probably improve on that a bit.

Was a sad moment stripping down the X79 setup from that case, after 10 years of duty, even though I'm transposing it rather than ditching it - I think the thing that impresses me most about the whole thing is how well that Xeon 1650 V2 holds up.
 
Rroff said:
Not much to show but my 14700K build together

FkkBHG6.png

Fans: 1x Akasa Apache Black, 4x Be Quiet! Silent Wings 3
Heatsink: Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
PSU: Be Quiet! Dark Power 13 850Watt
MB: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master
CPU: Intel 14700K
RAM: Kingston Fury Renegade 32GB 6000MHz
NVMEs: Samsung 990 Pro 1TB, SK Hynix Platinum 2TB
GPU: nVidia 3070FE
Soundcard: Creative AE-5
Thermal Paste: Arctic MX-6

Probably going to tweak the fan setup and cable management a bit.

Had some BIOS fun and games, but once I put the latest beta BIOS on it seems to have sorted things aside from resizeable bar which doesn't seem to want to play ball for some reason.

RAM fit under the heatsink fine which I didn't think would go so easily - somewhere the dimensions are listed wrong.

CPU runs at about 29C idle and hits 100C under stress tests - though fans are currently in silent mode so could probably improve on that a bit.

Was a sad moment stripping down the X79 setup from that case, after 10 years of duty, even though I'm transposing it rather than ditching it - I think the thing that impresses me most about the whole thing is how well that Xeon 1650 V2 holds up.
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Looking good mate, seen your bios issue and another reason to hold off buying into it right now. Hoping for some bios revisions to fix issues by the time i get mine, last thing i want is to update to a buggy bios and have the same issues you had.
 
Resizeable bar wasn't a motherboard issue even though GPU-z was saying it was LOL - I'd done the VBIOS update on my other 3070 for it but forgot to do this one.
 
Currently have a 13700kf but has been acting up the past few weeks would getting a 14700k be a bad idea! My 13700kf is bad silicon sp63 on p cores 52 on e cores. Would i have a better chance of getting a high sp score with a 14th gen cpu?
 
CPUs themselves don't usually go wrong, unless you've done something like put too much voltage through them, it might be something else causing problems.

I can't get an SP score but my 14700K seems to stack up well against 13th gen for voltages, power use and heat.
 
Cpu is not stable at all stock setting it fails occt stress test on stock voltages. Used my friends cpu to see if it was the cpu and is works perfect. Had a aio fail msi 360 and i think it cooked the cpu. Just not sure now if to go with 14900k or 14700k for 160 more. Will be undervolting.
 
Jay85 said:
Looking good mate, seen your bios issue and another reason to hold off buying into it right now. Hoping for some bios revisions to fix issues by the time i get mine, last thing i want is to update to a buggy bios and have the same issues you had.
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If I'd have blind flashed the latest beta BIOS before the first boot attempt as it turns out everything would have been OK, the beta so far seems stable. I was leery jumping in without having a reference point and as it turned out trying to stick to stable BIOS releases was actually more problematic.

Bit strange when these are essentially little different to the 13th gen and the out the box BIOS had Intel Next support.

EDIT: Some slight tweaks, I'd hardly call them overclocking get a fairly decent jump in lightly threaded workloads while keeping temperatures below 90C in heavier multi-threading aside from extreme stress tests where it can hit 100 with the cooling I have:

valid.x86.fr

Intel Core i7 14700K @ 5498.68 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[d1nfxs] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2023-10-27 01:29:08) - MB: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS MASTER - RAM: 32768 MB
valid.x86.fr valid.x86.fr
 
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Intel shares up 8% after releasing new financials showing margins beat expectations

www.reuters.com

Intel beats expectations as margins rise, manufacturing momentum builds

Intel forecast fourth-quarter revenue and margins above Wall Street estimates on Thursday, optimistic about a healthy rebound in personal computer sales, improvement in its data center business, and a growing lineup of customers seeking its manufacturing services.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
Grim5 said:
Intel shares up 8% after releasing new financials showing margins beat expectations

www.reuters.com

Intel beats expectations as margins rise, manufacturing momentum builds

Intel forecast fourth-quarter revenue and margins above Wall Street estimates on Thursday, optimistic about a healthy rebound in personal computer sales, improvement in its data center business, and a growing lineup of customers seeking its manufacturing services.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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Those figures are absolutely dire.
But the way they are presented, well unbelievable really. lol
Another one of Pat's cunning stunts.
 
Rroff said:
If I'd have blind flashed the latest beta BIOS before the first boot attempt as it turns out everything would have been OK, the beta so far seems stable. I was leery jumping in without having a reference point and as it turned out trying to stick to stable BIOS releases was actually more problematic.

Bit strange when these are essentially little different to the 13th gen and the out the box BIOS had Intel Next support.

EDIT: Some slight tweaks, I'd hardly call them overclocking get a fairly decent jump in lightly threaded workloads while keeping temperatures below 90C in heavier multi-threading aside from extreme stress tests where it can hit 100 with the cooling I have:

valid.x86.fr

Intel Core i7 14700K @ 5498.68 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[d1nfxs] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2023-10-27 01:29:08) - MB: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS MASTER - RAM: 32768 MB
valid.x86.fr valid.x86.fr
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What cooler are you using? I'm pondering at what temps i'm gonna end up with on custom cooling.
 
Jay85 said:
What cooler are you using? I'm pondering at what temps i'm gonna end up with on custom cooling.
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Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4, though with silent fan settings on CPU and case fans it'll hit 100C and probably throttling under extreme stress tests. In normal heavy use stays under 90, idles around 29C.

I'm done with AIOs personally.
 
Freddie1980 said:
It's BS like this that pushes people away from the PC space. Phone companies can get away from this artificial obsolescence as people need a phone but gamers will just switch to consoles or maybe a Steamdeck.
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well it only supports 2 games atm, you need a bios that supports dtt and a driver from you motherboard maker as well as the apo app, so is a lot of faffing about to get it working. so most people aren't missing much atm.
 
Freddie1980 said:
It's BS like this that pushes people away from the PC space. Phone companies can get away from this artificial obsolescence as people need a phone but gamers will just switch to consoles or maybe a Steamdeck.
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People have been saying the “switch to consoles” line for years on here and maybe it’s true but I’d be interested to see the numbers.

The boosts to framerates using APO are at 1080p and where FPS is already very high so it’s not exactly game changing atm.

Also, AMD are the better alternative now for pure gamers in the CPU space so it’s not like you still have to go Intel.
 
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