I would wait till black friday regardless of what you end up choosing. If its gaming only though, the 7800x3d is a stonker of a chip right now. If i wasn't stuck on Intel platform i would have gone for that.
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14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"
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I would wait till black friday regardless of what you end up choosing. If its gaming only though, the 7800x3d is a stonker of a chip right now. If i wasn't stuck on Intel platform i would have gone for that.
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I actually owned an Asus Z-690 also with 12600K/12900K and I thought you could do it on those CPU's also. I also did not try,well I probably did at one point but I do not remember 100%
Amd is the correct choice at this point in time.Yes I am a AMD shill .I only used Intel 10850K/12600K/12900K/13700K and currently sitting on 2x14900Kf in the last couple years.Really though even 14900K at 6000Mhz all core can not beat my 13700KF in PC Gaming FPS.Also AMD got upgrades into 2025,Intel 14900 dead end
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Yes that's what I meant waiting for Black Friday. I have no issues with gaming with the Haswell + 3090 though tbh the CPU upgrade if for Premiere/Photoshop which the Haswell is really lagging. You think the 7950x3d will be a huge improvement for that like it is with gaming?
Would be an improvement but the 7950x3D still targeted for best gaming performance. Unlike 7950 non 3D is for productivity.
Only 8 cores though, making it struggle unless you ONLY run a game with no other applications at the same time. All the reviews literally have fresh w11 installed and the game. Nothing else.
In the real world where it's common to have chrome with a bunch of tabs open, youtube, discord, spotify, teams etc, a noticeable reduction in performance occurs, which the 12 or 16 core CPU's deal with much better.
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Maybe I should just get the 7800 then upgrade to 8xxx when it comes out, keeping mobo and RAM the same.
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Can anyone do me a favour who has a 14900K or KF and has one set at stock, Ie everything auto relating to the CPU and at stock PL limits of 253W, Auto SVID, Auto LLC basically everything Auto and MCE off and tell me what your Bios Voltage is reading and what your max voltage is peaking to in Hwinfo in Windows.
Also could you do a Cinebench run and check your clock speeds as it should not drop under 5.6ghz.
My 14900KF on my Z690 Gaming A fully updated all on Auto is giving me 1.49-1.51v in the bios and it is peaking at 1.53v! in Hwinfo in Windows and the P core clocks are dropping to 5.2ghz far cry from Intels specs of 5.6ghz and even the E cores are dropping to 4.3 from 4.4 max 65-70c during Cinebench at 253W.
Does anyone have a Strix Gaming A Z690 with 14th gen also?
My P core SP rating is giving me 108 but the E core is giving me 60! it's worse than my 12900K! I believe I have a defective chip or some of the worst dodgy silicon bodged together, I cannot find anyone with an E core SP of 60, They are all in the 70-80's range, I don't know what's going on with my chip but it should NOT be dropping clocks to 5.2 In Cinebench R23 and using 1.51v for light spiking light loads in Windows at stock.
Intel is shoving out any old silicon with 14th gen.
Also could you do a Cinebench run and check your clock speeds as it should not drop under 5.6ghz.
My 14900KF on my Z690 Gaming A fully updated all on Auto is giving me 1.49-1.51v in the bios and it is peaking at 1.53v! in Hwinfo in Windows and the P core clocks are dropping to 5.2ghz far cry from Intels specs of 5.6ghz and even the E cores are dropping to 4.3 from 4.4 max 65-70c during Cinebench at 253W.
Does anyone have a Strix Gaming A Z690 with 14th gen also?
My P core SP rating is giving me 108 but the E core is giving me 60! it's worse than my 12900K! I believe I have a defective chip or some of the worst dodgy silicon bodged together, I cannot find anyone with an E core SP of 60, They are all in the 70-80's range, I don't know what's going on with my chip but it should NOT be dropping clocks to 5.2 In Cinebench R23 and using 1.51v for light spiking light loads in Windows at stock.
Intel is shoving out any old silicon with 14th gen.
1.53 volts is a lot for 10nm. Maybe dial back a little as I think the chip could be trying to save itsel.
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Oh yes I know it's a lot but I am just trying to figure out why at Stock the voltage is so high and why the clocks are dropping in Cinebench to 5.2ghz when the 14900K is meant to maintain 5.6ghz all core heavy multithreading workload and at good temps also so no thermal throttling.
I spoke to the shop they asked me to bring it in tomorrow. Apparently Intel have just dropped their advertised clock speeds for the 13900KS down from 5.6 to 5.4ghz on their web page and I can only guess this is because they are shipping out crap silicon.
I think they are going to have a riot on their hands with the 14900K with such poor silicon being shipped out to the majority of people.
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12/13/14 gen ipc test, not much in it between all 3.
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HUB now have their review up, IMO LGA 1700 is now effectively a dead man walking, given that no more CPUs will release on it, I can't see mobo makers putting time into new boards or adding new support/features into BIOS updates etc. I think the next round of CPU releases from either side will make me decide if I go Ryzen or just slug stick it out with the 12700KF until a time comes where the CPU isn't enough to power through games with the 4090- That time seems unlikely to come around this side of the next 5 years so I guess naturally I'd be looking at an established DDR5 build then anyway. All of my productivity tasks are GPU accelerated now, the CPU simply has to idle along, so the reliance on the latest CPU is trivial at best.
If one thing is clear to me, the Alder Lake platform now that gigabyte has had a stable BIOS for a year, has been excellent and will remain excellent, and mine is DDR4.
With 12th gen we reached a level of performance that really for the most part, only those chasing every fs even if it's single digit vs the last gen, would upgrade to, otherwise the extra cost makes no logical sense.
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Damn I was writing my post whilst you posted that same vid!
If one thing is clear to me, the Alder Lake platform now that gigabyte has had a stable BIOS for a year, has been excellent and will remain excellent, and mine is DDR4.
With 12th gen we reached a level of performance that really for the most part, only those chasing every fs even if it's single digit vs the last gen, would upgrade to, otherwise the extra cost makes no logical sense.
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Damn I was writing my post whilst you posted that same vid!
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We all knew it would only get 3 gens of CPU updates, but nobody expected the updates to merely be mild iterations. I was expecting 14th gen to be a marked performance boost over 12th gen, but it really isn't, in fact you're pumping out more heat and drawing more power out of the box 
All the more reason to grab used 12th gen deals for those still on 10th or 11th gen I guess, bargains to be had for healthy performance gains.
All the more reason to grab used 12th gen deals for those still on 10th or 11th gen I guess, bargains to be had for healthy performance gains.
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Yeah, I too expected so much more from what has been two generational changes of CPU from the 12700k I bought when they were first released. Whilst I never imagined the LGA 1700 socket supporting another gen after RL was released, here we are with the 14th Gen also on this socket.......But it is still most disappointing to see such little improvement from AL to this 14th Gen of CPU's.
Then again my wallet is most relieved, and thankful to Intel. They have provided such relatively mediocre advancements that there are no compelling reasons to do anything but sit this one out. Kinda comforting.
Then again my wallet is most relieved, and thankful to Intel. They have provided such relatively mediocre advancements that there are no compelling reasons to do anything but sit this one out. Kinda comforting.
, literally missed everything inbetween and went straight to a 9900k, can't see myself doing that again.