14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"

Curtis vincent · 8 Nov 2023 at 17:09

Armageus said:
I'd suggest starting a new thread and posting a diagram of what you've got connected where, as I'm not sure why you'd need to use a PCI-E power plug for your motherboard when the HX1000 has 2x EPS 8 pin plugs, and 8x PCI-E plugs?

If you must use adapters, then 2xmolex to 6 pin are the better option as they're normally better constructed and the connectors can cope with more load.

Okay will do. sorry yeah the 2 eps plugs share the same slots on the back of the PSU as the PCI-E its just on the device end they are different, the issue is there are 6 of those but I need a 7th basically for the Icue link hub.

I did also consider molex as max output is higher but seen some people say stay well away from them for fire risk.

Rroff · 8 Nov 2023 at 17:20

Curtis vincent said:
I did also consider molex as max output is higher but seen some people say stay well away from them for fire risk.

AFAIK the only specific fire risk is some Molex to SATA adapters, unless something I'm not aware of. As long as the Molex to PCI-e adapter is of good quality and fitted securely there is no fire risk - but loose connections and/or poor quality connectors can produce one due to the currents involved.

EDIT: Though the cabling on a lot of generic Molex adapters can't handle more than ~120 watt or so within its spec range.

Armageus · 8 Nov 2023 at 17:29

Rroff said:
EDIT: Though the cabling on a lot of generic Molex adapters can't handle more than ~120 watt or so within its spec range.

Much better than the 54w sata is rated for (and sata cables were often moulded rather than crimped and caught fire when used at the limit)

Armageus · 8 Nov 2023 at 17:30

Curtis vincent said:
Okay will do. sorry yeah the 2 eps plugs share the same slots on the back of the PSU as the PCI-E its just on the device end they are different, the issue is there are 6 of those but I need a 7th basically for the Icue link hub.

Can you not get a 2xtype 4 to 12v hpwr GPU cable instead of presumably using 4x pci-e cables for the GPU?

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Curtis vincent · 8 Nov 2023 at 18:03

Armageus said:
Can you not get a 2xtype 4 to 12v hpwr GPU cable instead of presumably using 4x pci-e cables for the GPU?

12VHPWR Cable | 600W PCIe 5.0 Power Adapter Cable

The official CORSAIR 600W PCIe 5.0 / Gen 5 12VHPWR PSU Power Cable delivers power from CORSAIR Type-4 PSUs to the most advanced PCIe 5.0 graphics cards.

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Didn't even know my PSU was compatible with those. Although I have a cablemod kit for it so wouldn't want to lose the colour. although if they do a white one that could work yeah

Curtis vincent · 8 Nov 2023 at 18:07

Curtis vincent said:
Didn't even know my PSU was compatible with those. Although I have a cablemod kit for it so wouldn't want to lose the colour. although if they do a white one that could work yeah

Looks as though you can! welp thanks for that Problem solved I guess!

H2S04 · 8 Nov 2023 at 18:09

yes, they got white, white-black. buy premium cable.

Curtis vincent · 9 Nov 2023 at 11:41

Installed new cable, able to plug second EPS in again for CPU, Still says power throttling in XTU but much less often/severely. I tried cinebench 2024 and got a score of 1920 which seems a bit low for a 14900k no? XTU was showing CPU utilisation of between 94 and 97% Tried R23 and score was 34315 with utilisation in XTU at 100% most of the time but almost always power throttling, briefly thermal throttles for a second at the start of each render pass

Dave2150 · 11 Nov 2023 at 19:54

14900KS leaked :eek:

Intel Core i9-14900KS 6.2 GHz processor spotted in first prebuilt systems with DDR4 memory - VideoCardz.com

Core i9-14900KS 6.2 GHz CPU in first systems A retailer in Israel is said to be offering the first systems with Intel’s unreleased Core i9-14900KS CPU. Intel is no doubt preparing a KS Special Edition variant of its flagship desktop CPU known as 14900K. These chips are highly binned models...

videocardz.com

If true, impressive binning from Intel. I really doubted we'd see such a CPU. These will have to be god tier bins to achieve 6.2Ghz long enough for benchmarks to pass/reviewers to reflect performance gains.

I'll get one, as will be a decent bump from my just above average clocking 13900K. Will still keep my 7950X3D in my gaming rig though most likely, depends how cold it gets this Winter :cry:

Jay-G25 · 11 Nov 2023 at 20:59

Dave2150 said:
14900KS leaked

Intel Core i9-14900KS 6.2 GHz processor spotted in first prebuilt systems with DDR4 memory - VideoCardz.com

Core i9-14900KS 6.2 GHz CPU in first systems A retailer in Israel is said to be offering the first systems with Intel’s unreleased Core i9-14900KS CPU. Intel is no doubt preparing a KS Special Edition variant of its flagship desktop CPU known as 14900K. These chips are highly binned models...

videocardz.com

If true, impressive binning from Intel. I really doubted we'd see such a CPU. These will have to be god tier bins to achieve 6.2Ghz long enough for benchmarks to pass/reviewers to reflect performance gains.

I'll get one, as will be a decent bump from my just above average clocking 13900K. Will still keep my 7950X3D in my gaming rig though most likely, depends how cold it gets this Winter

same CPU as the 13900K mate

Joking aside i will be grabbing one as well and looking to direct die cool it same as my 13900k , looking forward to having a play so fingers crossed it gets released

Dave2150 · 11 Nov 2023 at 21:34

Jay-G25 said:
same CPU as the 13900K mate

Joking aside i will be grabbing one as well and looking to direct die cool it same as my 13900k , looking forward to having a play so fingers crossed it gets released

Yeah it's still the worst new generation Intel ever released (excluding the i7), as identical in architecture and no IPC increase. Frequency boost from my 13900K will be noticeable though, plus fun to play with new toys

Rroff · 12 Nov 2023 at 02:16

6.2GHz isn't really much of a performance boost over stock :s and from what I've seen so far if your cooling is sufficient 6.2GHz boost should be possible on a lot of the non KS chips.

MartinPrince · 12 Nov 2023 at 02:44

Dave2150 said:
Yeah it's still the worst new generation Intel ever released (excluding the i7), as identical in architecture and no IPC increase. Frequency boost from my 13900K will be noticeable though, plus fun to play with new toys

No, the 11th Gen was objectively their worst release as that was actually a new generation but yet in many cases SLOWER than 10th Gen. The same can never be said of this 14th "Gen" compared to 13th.

Rroff said:
6.2GHz isn't really much of a performance boost over stock :s and from what I've seen so far if your cooling is sufficient 6.2GHz boost should be possible on a lot of the non KS chips.

True. If it's 6.2Ghz boost then that's not something to write home about as I am doing that currently with my 13700K.
Now, if it could do 6.2Ghz all core then that would be an improvement.

Robert896r1 · 12 Nov 2023 at 07:04

It’ll be 6.2 boost.

ade64 · 12 Nov 2023 at 10:29

got to be 6.2 boost, think it would be very hard to cool a 6.2 all core 14900ks.

Jay-G25 · 12 Nov 2023 at 13:00

6.2 all core for gaming loads should be possible considering if you have a good 13900k it can run at 6ghz all core for gaming loads if your cooling setup is sufficient you you utilise TVB properly which is exactly what Bang4buck does with his so no reason why the 14900KS couldn't do 6.2 under gaming loads if cooling is sufficient and its some sort of god tier bin which they should be... Heavy work loads like Cinebench not a chance imo

Dave2150 · 12 Nov 2023 at 18:40

Rroff said:
6.2GHz isn't really much of a performance boost over stock :s and from what I've seen so far if your cooling is sufficient 6.2GHz boost should be possible on a lot of the non KS chips.

By the same logic, 6.4Ghz would probably also be doable on the higher binned KS parts, if cooling if sufficient.

Grim5 · 12 Nov 2023 at 19:11

Dave2150 said:
Yeah it's still the worst new generation Intel ever released (excluding the i7), as identical in architecture and no IPC increase. Frequency boost from my 13900K will be noticeable though, plus fun to play with new toys

Ah no, the worst generation is the 11th gen, which we warned you about but you bought anyway; worst because its performance was lower than 10th gen. It's one thing to have the same performance, it's a whole other to go backwards like 11th gen did

But the 11th gen Core i Series was not the first generation to go backwards. It happened in early 2000s with the Intel Pentium 4. The first Pentium 4's that released were slower than the top Pentium 3 models

Dave2150 · 12 Nov 2023 at 20:46

Grim5 said:
which we warned you about but you bought anyway

Get a load of this :cry:

Dave2150 · 12 Nov 2023 at 20:47

Jay-G25 said:
6.2 all core for gaming loads should be possible considering if you have a good 13900k it can run at 6ghz all core for gaming loads if your cooling setup is sufficient you you utilise TVB properly which is exactly what Bang4buck does with his so no reason why the 14900KS couldn't do 6.2 under gaming loads if cooling is sufficient and its some sort of god tier bin which they should be... Heavy work loads like Cinebench not a chance imo

Imagine the power draw with 6.2Ghz all core :cry: