Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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ubersonic said:
It really goes to show exactly how bad modern Russian equipment is what a main battle tank that's supposedly "world beating" gets defeated by a pair of goddamn Bradleys xD

This is the equivalent of a Challenger 2 getting defeated by a pair of BMPs.

For those unaware the Bradley is potentially the single biggest disaster of western weapons development that wasn't cancelled (design began in the 1950s, introduction was in the 1980s). To the point where the US equivalents of public inquiries were held to determine what had gone wrong with the project and the resulting vehicle.

Many documentaries have been made about it but my favourite is still the satire "The Pentagon Wars", this clip should provide some comic respite from the depression/horrors of the thread:

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We've seen quite a number of videos now showing Bradleys ripping apart Russian tanks, Russian APCs and Russian IFVs. For a supposedly bad vehicle it seems to be remarkably good at blowing up Russian armour
 
Grim5 said:
We've seen quite a number of videos now showing Bradleys ripping apart Russian tanks, Russian APCs and Russian IFVs. For a supposedly bad vehicle it seems to be remarkably good at blowing up Russian armour
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Perhaps the US over-estimated what was required to deal with Russian hardware and thus while the Bradley may not have lived up their expectations, It's more capable of the job it was meant for than they thought it would be.
 
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Roar87 said:
"We" aren't. BAe systems, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon might be. The politicians they support after their careers might.
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Where do you think that money goes? Thin air? No, it goes straight into the UK economy, and some of it goes back to the government in the form of taxes. So yes, 'we' are profiting.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
The Ukrainian parliament voted 328-0 to remove Yanukovych from power as he was a Russian agent. He immediately fled to his pay master in Moscow. The people elected the parliament, the parliament voted.

None of this is the EU fault or the CIA fault. Ukrainians saw how much better life is in former soviet countries in the EU than in Russian controlled Ukraine and they chose to move towards the West.

For someone who likes to criticise the West so much and stick up for Russia I wonder why you are still living here?
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I haven't stuck up for Russia, maybe you could type a single post without an attack on the person you're replying to one single time on this forum. Not everyone in Russia wants to join the EU, evidently, as there was a separatist movement that thousands of Ukrainians joined and fought against Ukrainian Nationalists. This is documented, there are loads of videos of it on Vice's Youtube channel that you can watch, literal Ukrainians with Ukrainian passports and ID who opposed joining the EU and took over areas of East Ukraine.
 
Roar87 said:
I'm not sure someone writing something on your pot that's highly offensive represents the bearers sincerely held beliefs, I know this may require some critical thinking, but imagine someone wrote that as a practical joke knowing he'd have to walk around with it on. Is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha moment? IS THIS YOUR GOD ROAR? hahahaha
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Man, you always have to take the opposing view no matter what is. Most of the time you’re just objectively wrong.

It doesn’t matter the subject lmao, if the majority of us are in agreement with it, your in the other side rofl.
 
ubersonic said:
It really goes to show exactly how bad modern Russian equipment is what a main battle tank that's supposedly "world beating" gets defeated by a pair of goddamn Bradleys xD
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To be fair Bradley has a decent enough 25mm cannon on it capable of making a mess of any external equipment on a tank if it can get a burst in first. They couldn't really destroy the tank but they could render its capabilities suitably degraded, IIRC the tank was later finished off by drones.
 
Rroff said:
To be fair Bradley has a decent enough 25mm cannon on it capable of making a mess of any external equipment on a tank if it can get a burst in first. They couldn't really destroy the tank but they could render its capabilities suitably degraded, IIRC the tank was later finished off by drones.
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That's what the ATGMs are for.
 
Yeah people forget the ATGMs.

In Iraq the Bradleys did way more damage than the A1M1s, especially in the thunder run.
The A1M1s couldnt keep up and by the time they arrived the Bradleys had destroyed anything they needed to.

In a prolonged fight however of course the Bradleys would run out of ATGMs vs the stock of shells in the M1A1.
 
Roar87 said:
Some of us just have a sense of humour though to be fair
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Oh how you must roll around on the floor guffawing with your friends vatniks at the joke of killing all the Jews. Clearly the rest of us have had a sense of humour bypass. Next time a friend breaks a bone I'm going to write "kill all the Jews" on their cast and then laugh with them once we've posted it on social media.
 
Allnamestaken said:
Man, you always have to take the opposing view no matter what is. Most of the time you’re just objectively wrong.

It doesn’t matter the subject lmao, if the majority of us are in agreement with it, your in the other side rofl.
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Confirmation bias doesn't make you correct, this is a complex situation with a vast history that you personally and almost everyone in this thread, have no real idea what they are talking about. All that happens on a daily basis is the repeating of whatever latest twitter post from your favoured non impartial news source is, doesn't even need to be accurate, just needs to be posted first.
 
I am sure this has been written many times, but why do you people persist in the waste of time arguing with the propaganda merchants?
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
So these industries don't employ people who pay tax and NI? The companies they work for don't pay tax and NI?
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Which is irrelevant, you know very well that this conflict has had a significant impact on the average person's cost of living, to try and argue that its in anyway beneficial to average Joe because the arms industry is making a profit is absurd. I guess you're in favour of electric and gas prices being multitudes higher, because we all benefit when Shell and BP pay more tax, right?
 
Rroff said:
To be fair Bradley has a decent enough 25mm cannon on it capable of making a mess of any external equipment on a tank if it can get a burst in first. They couldn't really destroy the tank but they could render its capabilities suitably degraded, IIRC the tank was later finished off by drones.
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That little Bradley did pan the T90 into next week! On paper the T90 should swat the Bradley with ease, but I suppose that’s only on Russian paper, so likely 60% salt. I don’t think this type of engagement should be common place.
 
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